01:12 | <sideshowbarker> | sideshowbarker: do you know where I can catch dontcallmedom? or else on w3.org IRC: /msg dom from the #webrtc channel |
09:26 | <Ms2ger> | sideshowbarker: thanks - the chat window served as a great rubber duck so I don't even need to bother them now :) |
15:14 | <nicolo-ribaudo> | Hey question about the WHATWG process. I was trying to normatively reference a WHATWG spec in an Ecma spec, but Ecma is not super happy with the concept of living standards. I know that there are "review draft snapshots" (e.g. https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2024-06/) that I am not expected to reference -- I wonder what happens after the 45 days period that companies have to opt-out from the IPR stuff. Does that snapshot get moved to somewhere as "approved"? |
15:15 | <sideshowbarker> | No, nothing more happens with those snapshots. No “approval” of them happens, very intentionally |
15:16 | <sideshowbarker> | Their sole purpose is to get the RF commitments on any substantive changes |
15:17 | <sideshowbarker> | I’m curious who exactly is not super happy with normatively referencing the actual specs |
15:17 | <sideshowbarker> | But maybe this is not the place to discuss that |
15:18 | <nicolo-ribaudo> | Ok thanks |
15:19 | <nicolo-ribaudo> | But maybe this is not the place to discuss that |
15:19 | <sideshowbarker> | OK — but also, actually, I see now that what I wrote isn’t entirely accurate |
15:19 | <sideshowbarker> | I am certainly not the source of truth on this anyway |
15:20 | <sideshowbarker> | but you (and they) should read https://whatwg.org/working-mode in its entirety |
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15:22 | <nicolo-ribaudo> | Oh thanks, I'll share this :) |
15:25 | <sideshowbarker> | But one last thing: “snapshots” are a separate thing from “review drafts”. Snapshots are “commit snapshots” that get auto-generated/published for every push to the source repo. |
15:25 | <sideshowbarker> | for example, https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/bdb452ef7847a6c394e6914ba13675537eea2180/ |
15:27 | <sideshowbarker> | and those are not for RF-commitment/IPR purposes — instead they are what those paragraphs cited above are about |
15:28 | <sideshowbarker> | whereas “review drafts” are, e.g., https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2024-06/ that you cited earlier |
15:28 | <sideshowbarker> | https://whatwg.org/ipr-policy talks about what “review drafts” are for |
15:35 | <nicolo-ribaudo> | Thanks again :) |
17:55 | <Panos Astithas> | annevk: are you coming back? |
18:00 | <annevk> | Sorry no, I had a brief internet outage and now I have another meeting. |