| 01:23 | <TimothyGu> | Is https://github.com/tc39/proposal-javascript-standard-library/ still being actively developed? |
| 01:58 | <devsnek> | TimothyGu: i believe that turned into https://github.com/syg/standard-library-task-group |
| 02:00 | <shu> | devsnek: no, SLTG is not directly related to the standard library proposal. in fact SLTG turned more into the "incubator calls" |
| 02:00 | <devsnek> | hmm ok |
| 02:01 | <shu> | TimothyGu: the standard library proposal turned into builtin modules, since that's required for how michael saboff and co at JSC want to do the standard library |
| 02:01 | <shu> | TimothyGu: it's still being worked on by them (and me to a much smaller extent). there are thorny technical issues with polyfilling and making the available to non-module code that aren't solved yet |
| 02:02 | <shu> | making them* |
| 02:02 | <devsnek> | I'm not a fan of modules for standard library |
| 02:02 | <TimothyGu> | ah |
| 02:03 | <shu> | yeah, i'm also of the opinion, as domenic pointed out, if new standard library features were only builtin modules and builtin modules aren't available to script, that arbitrary bifurcates the ecosystem |
| 02:03 | <shu> | so it's pretty important that there be a way for builtin modules to be available to script |
| 02:04 | <devsnek> | has that been figured out yey |
| 02:04 | <devsnek> | yet |
| 02:04 | <shu> | nope, it's pretty hard |
| 02:04 | <devsnek> | yeah I'm of the opinion it's better to just keep making globals |
| 02:04 | <shu> | the availability-to-script thing is also the crux of it for ljharb's position that they must be polyfillable as well |
| 02:05 | shu | off for the night |
| 02:05 | <devsnek> | 👋 |
| 02:09 | <TimothyGu> | what's wrong about `import()` |
| 02:14 | <devsnek> | TimothyGu: not sync |
| 02:14 | <TimothyGu> | ah that |
| 02:19 | <devsnek> | i'm so excited for tla |
| 16:17 | <rwaldron> | @shu https://github.com/tc39/proposal-atomics-wait-async/issues/28 |
| 16:17 | <shu> | rwaldron: thanks for ping, in mtgs until 11am PT, will look in afternoon |
| 16:18 | <rwaldron> | Thank you! |
| 16:20 | <rwaldron> | also, cc @ljharb |
| 16:23 | <ljharb> | commented |
| 17:49 | <rwaldron> | ljharb thank you! |