| 18:15 | <devsnek> | could we remove the year from https://tc39.es/ecma262/ builds |
| 18:18 | <devsnek> | i'm tired of people asking what's new in es2021 |
| 18:27 | <rkirsling> | devsnek: like specifically es2021? or es20XX in general? |
| 18:27 | <devsnek> | rkirsling: well ES20XX in general |
| 18:27 | <ljharb> | lol you think they'll stop asking it because that changes? |
| 18:28 | <ljharb> | but yeah sure, that seems fine to me - it could also say "ECMAScript® 2021 Draft" or something better |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | i mean it's always the same |
| 18:28 | <rkirsling> | er I guess what I meant to ask is, are you wanting to abolish year-based naming or just the draft label? |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | they link to the living spec |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | and ask "what's new in es2021" |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | can we put some sort of template variable there |
| 18:28 | <rkirsling> | yeah the location of the word Draft seems like it might invite confusion |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | set it to "Living" for gh pages builds |
| 18:28 | <devsnek> | and whatever the relevant year is for archival builds |
| 18:29 | <rkirsling> | but we do have ratified yearly releases so it seems appropriate to say that it's moving toward the next snapshot... |
| 18:29 | <devsnek> | yeah nothing is *incorrect* |
| 18:29 | <devsnek> | it just confuses people |
| 18:30 | <rkirsling> | I suppose Living seems okay too I suppose if it weren't confusing for editors |
| 18:30 | <rkirsling> | oops proofreading |
| 18:30 | <rkirsling> | but ljharb is right, those blog posts aren't going anywhere :P |
| 18:30 | <ljharb> | what does html label it? |
| 18:31 | <shu> | how does html label itself or ecma262? |
| 18:36 | <ljharb> | how does html's living standard label itself |
| 18:36 | <devsnek> | HTML - Living Standard |
| 18:36 | <devsnek> | Last Updated XYZ |
| 18:37 | <rkirsling> | although I suppose they also don't have HTML2021 |
| 18:37 | <devsnek> | does w3 still republish it as a recommendation every year |
| 18:47 | <ljharb> | "Living Standard" sounds fine to me |
| 18:51 | <Bakkot> | honestly it seems fine to ask what's in es2021 |
| 18:52 | <Bakkot> | the yearly editions are a reasonable time for people who are not super involved to catch up with what's happened lately |
| 18:52 | <Bakkot> | rather than it being a constant thing |
| 18:53 | <rkirsling> | yup |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | Bakkot: it's out of sync |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | its not annoying when people ask what's in es2020 |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | you can just point them to the paragraph in the introduction |
| 18:56 | <Bakkot> | ah |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | its that they think es2021 exists |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | YEAR+! |
| 18:56 | <devsnek> | 1* |
| 18:57 | <rkirsling> | hmmmmmm |
| 18:58 | <rkirsling> | I still feel like the biggest problem is that the Draft bit is currently rather overlookable |
| 18:59 | <rkirsling> | if Draft came immediately after 2021 it'd already be clearer, like ljharb suggested |
| 18:59 | <devsnek> | whatever works |
| 18:59 | <devsnek> | imo it should say "living" but i'm not an editor |
| 19:01 | <ljharb> | i like living |
| 19:02 | <ljharb> | i think it should still have 2021 somewhere but maybe not in big letters |
| 19:02 | <devsnek> | maybe at the bottom :P |
| 19:03 | <rkirsling> | "i like living" is a good quote |
| 19:03 | <devsnek> | @horsejs |
| 19:07 | <shu> | once years ago, while walking around union square in SF, a homeless man said to me "dying must be easy because living sure is hard" |
| 19:07 | <shu> | i thought that was extremely profound at the time |
| 19:08 | <shu> | years later i think i found out it was 50cent lyrics or something |
| 19:08 | <rkirsling> | lol |
| 19:10 | <ljharb> | still could be profound :-) |
| 19:10 | <devsnek> | Death's gotta be easy 'cause life is harder, yeah, yeah |
| 19:10 | <devsnek> | Death's gotta be easy 'cause life is hard |
| 19:10 | <devsnek> | Death's gotta be easy 'cause life is harder, yeah |
| 19:10 | <devsnek> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbPvDBGN3HM |
| 19:12 | <shu> | ljharb: very true, though at the time i thought the man was philosophizing himself |