| 00:00 | <devsnek> | what bakkot said is what I was about to say |
| 00:00 | <ljharb> | right, private declarations + do expressions would certainly cover it |
| 00:01 | <ljharb> | it feels unclean tho to modify a class outside the class body |
| 00:01 | <ljharb> | so i'd still want static blocks, even with those two features |
| 02:16 | <jmdyck> | "Content Encoding Error: An error occurred during a connection to ci.tc39.es. " |
| 02:17 | <jmdyck> | (when trying to see the Begin.com rendering of PR #2105) |
| 02:23 | <ljharb> | jmdyck: there’s been an issue that was fixed today; let me rerun the render |
| 13:48 | <devsnek> | "Let nestedAssignmentPattern be the AssignmentPattern that is covered by DestructuringAssignmentTarget." |
| 13:48 | <devsnek> | why is this needed |
| 13:48 | <devsnek> | oh nvm i'm dumb |
| 17:36 | <leobalter> | I've gotta confess, most of the issues I bring to TC39 are because I find issues at Test262, some are spec some are how things are implemented. |
| 17:36 | <devsnek> | i think so far all my changes to ecma262 are bugs |
| 17:36 | <leobalter> | The word "champion" fits well on where I'm just the messenger, like a bug from yesterday that I just suggested expressed rejection |
| 17:37 | <Bakkot> | leobalter that is one of the best reasons to bring things to tc39 |
| 17:37 | <rkirsling> | ^ |
| 17:38 | <rkirsling> | mine both were via test262 as well |
| 17:38 | <rkirsling> | this time |
| 17:38 | <leobalter> | it is but it feels but I'd like to be more clear in the next issues that I'm just the messenger. My personal goal is interoperability, most of the times just limited to it |
| 17:40 | <leobalter> | It's not a bad thing, I really appreciate people working along to find a solution. I really meant it saying I'm thankful to Bakkot showing more context to the issue. |
| 17:41 | <leobalter> | and I'm happy that now I have a better justification to work on the respective tests. "Why? To make the JS ecosystem better" |
| 17:41 | <leobalter> | just a _public reflection_ |
| 17:50 | <deltab> | bendtherules: I believe REPLs use the NormalCompletion values |
| 17:51 | <rwaldron> | I don't remember the secret irc incantation to get the attention of bterlson akirose and co... I think I have a scheduling issue with my topic today. I have meeting from 2-3 (ET) and my Numeric Sep topic falls in that time |
| 17:54 | <akirose> | `/notice #tc39-chairs your message here` |
| 17:54 | <rwaldron> | <3 |
| 17:55 | <rwaldron> | akirose can you pop that in the channel topic? |
| 17:55 | <ljharb> | in the delegates channel topic would be great |
| 17:55 | <rwaldron> | Oh, word |
| 17:55 | <rwaldron> | What ljharb said |
| 18:16 | <leobalter> | wrt Tests for WeakRefs, I believe any further coverage for WeakRefs should be for specific implementations to match what each want wants for their GC and how deterministic each one can be. I don't see value in more coverage with shared tests (Test262). |
| 18:17 | <leobalter> | littledan: ^^ (after your presentation, for sure) |
| 18:20 | <devsnek> | 👀 https://gc.gy/63060637.png |
| 18:31 | <leobalter> | my preferred options, in order: 1. Engines should just filter out cleanupsome tests by the matching feature tag. 2. remove the tests from tests. |
| 18:31 | <leobalter> | I'm not a fan of adding a "stage 2" flag. |
| 18:32 | <leobalter> | and I would prefer not creating precedent |
| 18:33 | <rkirsling> | so you'd prefer that they...clean up some, eh |
| 18:35 | <littledan> | leobalter: I'm fine with that, I was just trying to nod to rwaldron 's announcement that there would be more tests (maybe I misunderstood him) |
| 18:35 | <leobalter> | rkirsling: haha yes |
| 18:35 | <leobalter> | littledan: that's something I haven't synced with rwaldron so he might have seen something I'm not up to date |
| 18:36 | <littledan> | yeah his presentation was the first I heard of it too |
| 18:36 | <rwaldron> | leobalter, that's the thing I wanted to sync on last week, |
| 18:37 | <rwaldron> | ok, back to my _other_ meeting. |
| 18:37 | <leobalter> | jridgewell: we can see your IRC notifications |
| 18:37 | <littledan> | haha |
| 18:38 | <leobalter> | stage &&= 4 |
| 18:39 | <devsnek> | woo |
| 18:40 | <leobalter> | keith_mi_ shu wrt to my preferred options above. A |
| 18:40 | <leobalter> | Would you be fine with option 1? |
| 18:40 | <shu> | adding a new feature flag for cleanupSome? |
| 18:41 | <shu> | that wfm |
| 18:42 | <keith_mi_> | Yeah, new flag is fine, we currently filter by directory |
| 18:42 | <leobalter> | at this point yes, we should add a flag for cleanupSome because we only have one for FinalizationRegistry but also this folder https://github.com/tc39/test262/tree/main/test/built-ins/FinalizationRegistry/prototype/cleanupSome |
| 18:42 | <leobalter> | keith_mi_ keith_miller |
| 18:43 | <leobalter> | witch one is not the evil one ? :) |
| 18:43 | <keith_mi_> | neither |
| 18:43 | <keith_mi_> | Both are evil |
| 18:53 | <leobalter> | `git grep --name-only -e 'async-gc\.js' --or -e 'cleanupSome'` might find every file we should add the flag |
| 19:05 | <leobalter> | https://github.com/tc39/test262/pull/2713 |
| 19:05 | <leobalter> | littledan ystartsev keith_mi_ shu ^^ |
| 19:06 | <ystartsev> | nice, thanks |
| 23:38 | <Bakkot> | does anyone recall why we never added regexp.escape? |
| 23:38 | <Bakkot> | i.e. a thing which takes a string and gives you a regexp which matches exactly that string (as a substring) |
| 23:40 | <Bakkot> | ah: https://github.com/benjamingr/RegExp.escape/issues/37#issue-98309281 |
| 23:40 | <gibson042> | Bakkot: the so-called "even-odd" problem |
| 23:40 | <gibson042> | yep |
| 23:41 | <Bakkot> | sigh |
| 23:45 | <gibson042> | I tried to revive it at https://esdiscuss.org/topic/regexp-escape#content-54 , but that never went anywhere (and in particular did not go in front of committee) |
| 23:48 | <Bakkot> | I do not find markm's argument compelling |
| 23:49 | <Bakkot> | having a tag which lets you assemble a regex out of parts seems fine as well, but I would still get utility out of a thing which made it your responsibility to not precede it by a backslash or left bracket or whatever |
| 23:50 | <Bakkot> | I wonder if he might be persuaded to change his stance, now that five years have passed with no progress on this frotn |
| 23:50 | <gibson042> | +1 |
| 23:54 | <ljharb> | that’d be great |
