11:04
<krijnh>
O hai
11:18
<dhx1>
<link rel="tag" ... /> - there doesn't seem to be much information in the spec on how the href attribute is handled. Does the last word of the href attribute become the tag name? (as per http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag)
11:22
<annevk>
I think it is invalid for <link>
11:22
<annevk>
or should be
11:25
<dhx1>
annevk: source is http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#link-type-tag
11:27
<annevk>
oh sorry, the URL is the tag
11:27
<annevk>
my bad
11:28
<dhx1>
so in the case of href="http://example.com/example/blue";, is the tag "blue" and the page that describes that tag "http://example.com/example/blue";?
11:29
<annevk>
the tag is "http://example.com/example/blue";
11:31
<dhx1>
so a client parsing these tags would probably need to load each URL, grab the <title> of the page (or similar) and display that as the tag name? seems a little vague at the moment
11:32
<annevk>
the tag is the link
11:32
<annevk>
what you display is up to you
11:35
<dhx1>
ok, thanks for clarifying
11:48
<foolip>
hsivonen, what do you make of this RDFa/Microdata TF?
13:03
<smaug____>
how do I activate an accesskey on Opera/Linux
13:03
<smaug____>
alt+shift+<key> doesn't seem to work
13:03
<Philip`>
Shift+escape, I think
13:04
<smaug____>
huh
13:04
<smaug____>
but works
13:04
<smaug____>
thanks
13:20
<annevk>
Can you also download Google web fonts or is it solely for use with their API?
14:29
<bga_>
gsnedders hi
14:30
<bga_>
my friend have found bug in opera 11.50 http://jsfiddle.net/XV8AU/
14:32
<bga_>
in 9.64 - ok
14:39
<annevk>
so per HTTP the following is invalid
14:39
<annevk>
Content-Type:text/html;
14:40
<annevk>
I doubt however anyone follows that
14:40
<annevk>
maybe I should raise an issue on that
15:33
<LoneStar99>
anyone here which can take a look at a canvas? and tell me what is worn?
15:33
<LoneStar99>
wrong?
15:39
<LoneStar99>
why is this image so bloated? http://bobc.in/im/drop/cc/tp/bcqo-0
15:40
<annevk>
your canvas is 150*300 and then you resized that to style="width:768px;height:1024px" with CSS
15:40
<annevk>
only natural that it will look odd
15:41
<annevk>
the width/height attributes of <canvas> are meaningful and set the <canvas> drawing area, use them ;)
15:41
<annevk>
whereas the CSS properties merely set how big the <canvas> should appear on screen
15:42
<timeless>
[15:28] <AryehGregor> It would actually simplify things if I could assume that a selection must be either wholly editable or not. But it doesn't have
15:42
<timeless>
aryehgregor: as a user, i want to be able to copy what i see, i shouldn't be blocked from copying stuff just because every second letter is content editable...
15:42
<timeless>
zewt: which mail did gmail say might not have been sent by me? all of my mail is actually sent by timeless.bmo2, but gmail should know and trust that....
15:42
<timeless>
tabatkins: if i'm on metered bandwidth your sites which prefetch on mouse hover are incredibly expensive....
16:02
<LoneStar99>
annevk: how do you know my canvas is 150*300?
16:02
<annevk>
because that's the default if you do not set anything
16:02
<LoneStar99>
where do I set them?
16:03
<annevk>
using the width and height attributes
16:03
<annevk>
I said that earlier
16:04
<LoneStar99>
ok i understand, style:width:xx;height:yy; will not do the trick then...
16:07
<annevk>
they size the canvas, not the drawing area
16:23
<LoneStar99>
oh ok thanks
16:40
<LoneStar99>
annevk: i swear nobody every answers a question at #html5 damn mob controlled
16:42
<Philip`>
LoneStar99: HTML5 is obsolete anyway, we've moved on to unversioned HTML now
16:43
<Philip`>
Let the #html5 mob wallow in their outdatedness if they want
16:45
<LoneStar99>
Philip`: right on
16:53
<Kingdutch>
What's wrong with HTML5? :O
16:53
<Kingdutch>
It's only like just here
16:54
<wilhelm>
It's so 2007!
16:55
<annevk>
Kingdutch, read up: http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5
17:00
<smaug____>
selection handling with :before and :after is... "interesting" in Gecko and Webkit
17:00
<smaug____>
AryehGregor: are you perhaps spec'ing how selecting text in :before and :after should work?
17:03
<annevk>
when the render and DOM tree collapse is no fun
17:16
<Kingdutch>
Ah right ok
17:16
<Kingdutch>
Hence the <!document html> instead of html5
17:16
<Kingdutch>
I want to make something that can replace HTML
17:16
<Kingdutch>
Or well, more the thing of HTML JS and PHP
17:17
<Kingdutch>
Hence why the prototype would still in the end be serving HTML and JS
17:17
<Kingdutch>
My biggest problem is a lack of starting point =|
17:17
<Kingdutch>
But I guess this is not the right channel to discuss that
17:43
<erlehmann>
Kingdutch, if you write “<!document HTML>”, something is broken.
17:44
<erlehmann>
also, replace HTML. haha. hahahaha. ha.
17:54
<Kingdutch>
I meant <!doctype html>
17:54
<Kingdutch>
I was close :O
20:58
<annevk-cloud>
WHATWG with summer recess?
20:59
<Ms2ger>
'murricans are out celebrating
20:59
<annevk-cloud>
Oh right, their freedom and shit
21:00
<annevk-cloud>
Aren't they like country eighty-something on the freedom-index?
21:00
<Ms2ger>
Sounds rather high
21:02
<annevk-cloud>
I can only find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#2010_rankings so fast and there they are actually number seventeen
21:03
<annevk-cloud>
Mind you, .18 away from flawed democracy
21:03
<Ms2ger>
Meh, data
21:04
Ms2ger
prefers uninformed trolling
21:07
<annevk-cloud>
Will you come on Google+?
21:08
<zewt>
antisocial networking, nobody is allowed in
21:14
<annevk-cloud>
A, reddit explains what is going on outside the US: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnt6hbZlwD1qadvboo1_500.png
21:24
<karlcow>
I really wonder how they define democracies
21:47
<Dashiva>
karlcow: Go read the report, it explains it in detail
21:54
<karlcow>
Dashiva just the idea of democracy and King doesn't compute with me… French education :)
21:57
<Dashiva>
Well, much the same way a dictator saying "We're a democracy and staging fake elections" doesn't make a country a democracy, having a person with the title king doesn't necessarily make a country not a democracy
21:57
<Dashiva>
(Move that second " over four words)
21:58
<Kingdutch>
to the left
21:58
<Kingdutch>
you mean
21:58
<Kingdutch>
Cuz I was moving it to the right
21:58
<Kingdutch>
Which makes no sense at all
22:07
<smaug____>
menu/command handling needs to be re-designed, or at least cleaned up
23:15
<annevk-cloud>
smaug____, yeah, I never think that made a lot of sense to be honest
23:15
<annevk-cloud>
smaug____, especially the idea of menu being for system menus rather than typical dropdown menus websites have
23:16
<annevk-cloud>
bit out of touch with what authors needs
23:16
<annevk-cloud>
anyway, bedtime
23:16
<smaug____>
annevk-cloud: also the creation of menus is strange
23:16
<smaug____>
and when to use <command> and when something else etc.
23:17
<smaug____>
and yeah, it is late here too
23:26
<rroyog>
hi
23:57
<dglazkov>
is sXBL dead?
23:57
<heycam>
I think so
23:58
<dglazkov>
k
23:58
<dglazkov>
what's that stuff you're working on, heycam?
23:59
<heycam>
dglazkov, which stuff do you mean? :)