01:17
<gsnedders>
jamesr: Dragonfly does always seem to be amazingly good at crashing. :P
01:20
<TabAtkins>
Argh, dammit, I cant' reproduce the damned mouseup errors. >_<
01:23
<TabAtkins>
Also, dammit, Chrome now does XSS protection that hurts live dom viewer.
01:32
<TabAtkins>
Okay, discovered the problem (or at least, one of them). It was mouse*out* that's being fired too much. What's worse, it's getting fired directly at the <svg> element (target set to it), even if the mouse never leaves the <svg>.
03:55
<jacobolus>
roc: okay, you're right. i'm not entirely sure what was up, but I cleared out a bunch of lines and now it's working as expected. thanks. :)
06:38
<roc>
hehe
06:38
<roc>
begun, the web-perf setTimeout clamping snarkfest has!
14:00
<gsnedders>
Does anyone (apart from Opera) do modulo for ImageDataArray?
14:04
<mrspeaker>
foolip: Yeah, no getters and setters - I was just trying to make it as close as possible so that when it hits then there will only be minimal changes required (in fact none, because I've added a very thin bridge). I need it because the dom tree can change at any point and I only want to extract the microdata on a user event targeted at a specific block. And if that's not possible, then I at least need a nice way to link a microdata element to
14:04
<mrspeaker>
html it came from... is there a way to do that?
14:16
<mtjahangir>
Hi all, I what to parse some xml like tags (<my:abc>) with html5lib (python), but html5lib converts this to <myU0003Aabc>. I looked into source code, it seems there the tokenizer does not support namespaces. Can anyone help?
14:17
<annevk>
use an XML parser?
14:22
<mtjahangir>
annevk, using html5lib.HTMLParser
14:25
<annevk>
right
14:25
<annevk>
if you want to parse XML, use an XML parser
14:26
<Zeddy>
anyone here that can tell me why my android device isn't responding to the html5 manifest file? It isn't asking me if i want to allow the page to save data for me, and when i go into flight mode and refresh it tells me i need an internet connection? It's working perfectly on browsers, the test url is: http://www.kokonniemi.fi/guide/index.php/view/map/1/1
14:31
<mtjahangir>
Is there a XML Parser in html5lib?
14:32
<gsnedders>
mtjahangir: No
14:34
<mtjahangir>
Is this means that i can't parse tags like <my:abc> with html5lib?
14:34
<mrspeaker>
Zeddy: cache manifest works fine in all the android devices I've used. But it's very tricky (in android and iphone... many times i've pulled my hair out trying tto figure out what hasn't cached. Make sure you have logging on all of the cache events, and start with a super minimal test case.
14:35
<annevk>
mtjahangir, maybe if you use a different serialization format but it does not seem like a good idea
14:36
<mtjahangir>
annevk, The problem is in Parser not Serializer
14:36
<mtjahangir>
I use lxml for converting the tree to string
14:37
<annevk>
hmm
14:37
<annevk>
maybe you should invoke it with a different option or something?
14:38
<gsnedders>
mtjahangir: lxml doesn't support non-namespaced XML, so it doesn't let you have elements called "my:abc", for example.
14:38
<gsnedders>
mtjahangir: Are you actually dealing with HTML and not XML, though?
14:38
<mtjahangir>
Yes
14:39
<mtjahangir>
I want using some few custom tags mixed in html (like <my:for ...>)
14:40
<gsnedders>
mtjahangir: Such elements are invalid, though. If you want html5lib to cope, you'll have to not use lxml (I can't remember what tree-builders do cope)
14:44
<mtjahangir>
thnx
14:45
<Zeddy>
aahh shit, mrspeaker, it does work, its just really confusing when the normal cache caches all kinds of map tiles, i had to clear it, everything seems to be in order no
14:52
<mrspeaker>
Zeddy: good to hear!
14:53
<annevk>
so in Google+
14:54
<annevk>
if I share something someone else is sharing
14:54
<annevk>
what am I sharing?
14:54
<annevk>
RT is a much better interface
14:54
<annevk>
get duplicate info all the time
14:59
<MikeSmith>
annevk: you are making a copy
14:59
<MikeSmith>
it's not a reference
14:59
<MikeSmith>
and if somebody comments on that copy, those comments don't go to the original
15:00
<MikeSmith>
etc.
15:00
<annevk>
so when i share a copy i copy the copy?
15:00
<MikeSmith>
yeah
15:00
<foolip>
mrspeaker, items and properties are represented by HTMLElement, isn't that enough?
15:00
<MikeSmith>
annevk: simple RT is better, I think too
17:06
<timeless>
can't anyone w/ a google account sign up instantly these days?
17:10
<timeless>
heycam|away: ...
17:10
<timeless>
The following IDL fragment defines an interface that has one attribute with the [TreatNullAs] extended attribute, and one operation with an argument that has the extended attribute:
17:10
<timeless>
interface Dog { attribute DOMString name; attribute DOMString owner;
17:10
<timeless>
boolean isMemberOfBreed([TreatNullAs=EmptyString] in DOMString breedName); };
17:11
<timeless>
anyone here see the <one attribute> <with TreatNullAs>? :)
17:11
<danj>
I still feel the duty to spread the word for something I'll probably never use
17:11
<timeless>
danj: good for you
17:11
<timeless>
the world needs enablers
17:11
<timeless>
do you also offer access to controlled substances? :)
17:12
<AryehGregor>
My circles are currently: 1 family, 1 acquaintances, 1 Wikimedia, 16 web standards.
17:13
<timeless>
AryehGregor: i need a way to see other people's web-standards circles
17:13
<timeless>
because my web standards circle is much smaller
17:14
<AryehGregor>
Well, to a first approximation everyone in my circles is web standards, so just look at my profile and add everyone you know.
17:14
<AryehGregor>
Hmm, it doesn't seem to let other people see everyone in my circles, only a limited selection?
17:15
<timeless>
i'm not actually sure how much of you i can see
17:15
<timeless>
or even how to try to see any of you
17:15
<AryehGregor>
You're in my circles, so you can see who's in my circles.
17:15
<AryehGregor>
That's how it's set up.
17:15
AryehGregor
likes the "view profile as . . ." feature
17:15
<AryehGregor>
You don't seem to get the "View All" link.
17:16
<AryehGregor>
I wonder if that's a bug.
17:16
<timeless>
there's a view all link under" In Aryeh;'s circles"
17:16
<AryehGregor>
Ah, okay.
17:16
<AryehGregor>
I don't see that when I view it as you.
17:16
<AryehGregor>
Bug. :(
17:16
<timeless>
or possibly a privacy setting?
17:17
<AryehGregor>
It should still display the same for you as for when I view as you.
17:17
<timeless>
can you give me some urls to look at?
17:17
timeless
is having trouble parsing this
17:17
timeless
is also trying to parse webidl
17:18
<AryehGregor>
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100662365103380396132/about
17:18
<AryehGregor>
Can you see who's in my circles there?
17:18
<AryehGregor>
I can only see eight, not the full list.
17:19
<AryehGregor>
Well, just pick someone else if it doesn't work, like: https://plus.google.com/u/0/107429617152575897589/posts
17:19
<AryehGregor>
Then follow the breadcrumbs if that's not enough for you.
17:19
<AryehGregor>
Actually, forget that. Once you have a few, just go to suggestions.
17:19
<AryehGregor>
It will magically find all the right people for you.
17:20
<timeless>
without being signed in, there's AryehGregor nothing on the left side AryehGregor other than "Report this profile"
17:20
<AryehGregor>
Yes, I have my circles viewable only to my circles.
17:21
<timeless>
ah, and hixie is open
17:21
<timeless>
ooh, for cameron, there's a "people who have cameron in circles"
17:22
<AryehGregor>
Yeah, that's a separate option.
17:22
<AryehGregor>
I turned that off too.
17:22
<timeless>
grr
17:22
<timeless>
tablets kinda suck
17:22
<timeless>
it's too easy to accidentally "click" when you mean to "swipe"
17:24
<timeless>
ok, i need to rename my 'w3' group to 'a-w3' or something
17:24
<timeless>
alphabetical sorting kinda sucks..
17:26
timeless
ponders
17:26
<timeless>
<Mike|Michael> Smith - isn't such a unique name is it...
17:27
<AryehGregor>
Mike(tm) Smith is.
17:27
<AryehGregor>
Or Michael(tm) Smith.
17:27
<AryehGregor>
As the case may be.
17:29
AryehGregor
notes that MediaWiki also makes users' gender public if they choose to specify it, but the default is "Unspecified"
17:31
<AryehGregor>
Wow, I managed to waste an amazing amount of time fiddling with Google+ today.
17:31
<AryehGregor>
Back to work for me!
17:31
<timeless>
i reviewed an entire single point of webidl in that time!
17:31
<timeless>
(4.3.13)
17:32
<timeless>
anyone know what happens if someone tries to do: [TreatNullAs=EmptyString] attribute DOMString? confused;
22:13
<timeless>
heycam: current comments for today: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1271668
22:13
<heycam>
timeless, thanks
22:13
<heycam>
timeless =~ s/m/r/
22:13
<timeless>
it's a lot slower than i was expecting
22:14
timeless
tries to apply that regexp
22:14
timeless
fails
22:15
<timeless>
oh!
22:15
<timeless>
yeah, well, i do sleep
22:15
<timeless>
persistent is the best i can offer
22:15
<heycam>
:)
22:15
<timeless>
i even saw Dirty Dancing yesterday
22:15
timeless
needs to check on the playlist for tongith
22:17
<timeless>
`The Umbrellas of Cherbourg` is on tonight
22:17
<heycam>
at least I've heard of Dirty Dancing…
22:17
<timeless>
oh, i could have seen 'Annie Hall' yesterday instead
22:17
timeless
has to actually make choices on Tuesdays
22:18
<timeless>
yeah, problem is, i've already seen Dirty Dancing
22:18
<timeless>
i should have gone to see Annie Hall
22:18
<timeless>
<wikipedia> Annie Hall is a 1977 American romantic comedy directed by Woody Allen from a screenplay co-written with Marshall Brickman and co-starring Diane Keaton. One of Allen's most popular and most honored films, it won four Academy Awards including Best Picture. Roger Ebert described it as "just about everyone's favorite Woody Allen movie".[1]
22:19
<timeless>
next week i'll miss `Paris Je T'aime`, but I'll be in Paris then, so it's ok :)
22:20
<timeless>
http://www.blogto.com/film/2011/06/free_outdoor_film_screenings_in_toronto_summer_2011/ fwiw
22:22
<timeless>
the friday films are entirely impractical for me unless i find someone to stay with in that area, and most of those people would object to a friday night movie
22:23
<timeless>
grey gardens seems a bit more doable...
22:33
<timeless>
cool, i managed to get google stree view to color separate
22:36
<timeless>
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/6092230/img/6092230.png
22:42
<TabAtkins>
timeless: You sure that's not the 3d view?
22:42
<timeless>
heh
22:42
<TabAtkins>
'cause it's looks like anaglyph rendering
22:42
<timeless>
i'm sure i didn't ask for such a view
22:42
<TabAtkins>
And it's more pronounced on foreground objects, so that's almost certainly what you're seeing.
22:42
<timeless>
and the make link feature didn't give me the same view
22:42
<timeless>
which was disappointing
22:44
<AryehGregor>
The history APIs work really nicely in Google+.
22:44
<AryehGregor>
Extremely smooth.
22:44
<TabAtkins>
Yeah, I didn't even realize they were ajaxing. I thought it was just very smooth pageloads.
22:45
<timeless>
didn't you read the 'ask me anything about g+' thing?
22:46
<heycam>
I was hitting Cmd+R the other day while on G+ and getting frustrated that the page wasn't reloading, not seeing the throbber start throbbing, but I guess it was the history apis taking care of it
22:46
<Hixie>
any opera people around?
22:47
<TabAtkins>
timeless: Yeah, that's what let me know.
22:50
<timeless>
heycam: so, i'm @4.5.5
22:50
<timeless>
i think i'm going to dump and run and try to benefit from some TIFF goodies
22:50
<timeless>
if i can remember what they are
22:51
<heycam>
ok thanks very much