18:11
<Hixie>
wtf, there's a web events wg?
18:11
<Hixie>
how many wgs does the w3c need?!
18:13
<boogyman>
evidently 1 more :-s
18:22
<zewt>
feels like the first time people set up a web forum
18:23
<zewt>
and they create 250 little forums that get 2 posts each, and nobody can follow anything
18:59
<jcranmer>
the W3C will create working groups until they become imposible to number
19:09
<Ms2ger>
And continue even then
19:57
<annevk>
Hixie, yeah
19:57
<annevk>
Hixie, trying to introduce a new init* method
19:57
<annevk>
I raised some noise, but I'm afraid that's not gonna cut it
19:57
<annevk>
seems DOM3Events mentioned to get new init* methods introduced in browsers too
20:39
<Hixie>
annevk: well, just make sure the browser vendors know the specs in question are bogus
20:39
<Hixie>
annevk: and provide an alternative and make sure that one is the one that gets implemented
20:39
<Hixie>
annevk: webkit in particular seems to have moved to constructors everywhere
20:39
<Hixie>
annevk: and i dropped the init*s from the specs i edit
20:40
<Hixie>
(and moved my timeline for doing that up mostly because of pressure from them)
23:27
<jarek>
Hi
23:27
<jarek>
why manifest.appcache gets cached by the browser even if I had not listed it?
23:28
<jarek>
is this by design?
23:28
<jarek>
I can reproduce this on Chrome, looks like serious flow
23:28
<jarek>
s/flow/flaw
23:29
<jarek>
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Offline_resources_in_Firefox#section_11
23:30
<jarek>
"it is a good idea to set expires headers on your web server for *.appcache files to expire immediately to avoid the risk of caching the manifest files."
23:30
<jarek>
why would anyone want to cache the .appcache file itself?