| 08:42 | <Ms2ger> | https://twitter.com/NightValeRadio/status/351190436754370562 |
| 13:23 | <GPHemsley> | I'm interested to see how this gets resolved: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=887463 |
| 13:37 | <svl> | From a quick look at that repository, it looks like all code has always been under BSD, so legally Mozilla seems to be totally in the clear. Wonder what the story behind the request is; how much goodwill is worth there... |
| 13:39 | <svl> | "until I am handed a diploma" is rather suggestive as to the story behind it. :/ |
| 13:45 | <SimonSapin> | I don’t see the relationship between this code and a diploma |
| 13:50 | <svl> | She has an @senecacollege.ca email address; that college has a course where students work on Mozilla code. |
| 13:51 | <galant> | is there sure way to find if visitor is using ie 8? but it needs to be 100% sure |
| 13:56 | <galant> | <!--[if lte IE 8]> this works 100% of the time without mistakes? |
| 13:59 | <svl> | http://caitpotter.blogspot.com/2013/06/theres-no-opener-theres-no-punchline.html |
| 13:59 | <SimonSapin> | galant: this is 8 and earlier versions |
| 14:00 | <galant> | I know SimonSapin |
| 14:00 | <galant> | but is this working 100% of the time without mistakes? |
| 14:00 | <galant> | I need to use different javascript code for ie8 and less how can I do this |
| 14:00 | <SimonSapin> | galant: and yes, until some browser decides to parse these for some reason, but I doubt it |
| 14:01 | <galant> | I need to say something like "if its not ie8 then use this js file if its ie9 or 10 use another js file |
| 14:01 | <galant> | can I do this? |
| 14:01 | <gsnedders> | For people who've cared: I've just uploaded all historic html5lib releases to PyPI. These are identical to the original archives (except for html5lib-0.11.1, where the original zip contained every file twice), recompressed as tgz, and hence not quite identical to the 0.2ish, 0.9ish, etc. tags in git. |
| 14:02 | <SimonSapin> | galant: I don’t know the details but you’re probably on the right track. google "IE conditional comments" |
| 14:04 | <svl> | galant: if you "need" to do that _because_ ie8 doesn't support some features (and some other hypothetical browsers which also wouldn't support those features, would benefit from the same fallback file), then of course detecting those features is much cleaner |
| 14:07 | <gsnedders> | svl: AFAIK (IANAL, etc.), BSD, MIT, GPLv2 are all revocable. |
| 14:08 | <galant> | ok thankks |
| 14:09 | <gsnedders> | svl: And I honestly don't know enough about copyright law in the US tohave a real answer. |
| 14:27 | <zewt> | gsnedders: never heard of anything like that, unless you have some "i can revoke your license if i feel like it" clause in the license |
| 14:27 | <zewt> | nobody in the open source world would ever use code under a license that allowed that |
| 14:28 | <gsnedders> | zewt: I believe there are such countries, FWIW. |
| 14:28 | <zewt> | i'm not aware of the US being one of them |
| 14:31 | <SimonSapin> | at least someone thought necessary to make CC0 explicitly unrevocable |
| 14:46 | <zewt> | of course, if mozilla gives into this, they'll get a flood of "give me $1000 or i'll revoke your license to some contribution i sent in years ago" blackmails |
| 14:59 | <GPHemsley> | hmm... the rest of that blog suggests something deeper is going on |
| 15:00 | <zewt> | i didn't read it, from the childishness of the bug it doesn't seem like someone worth reading, heh |
| 15:01 | <GPHemsley> | I don't think "childish" is the term I'd use |
| 15:01 | <GPHemsley> | having read some of the other posts |
| 15:02 | <GPHemsley> | but I won't speculate further based on a handful of Internet writings |
| 15:02 | <zewt> | the bug reads like a tantrum |
| 15:02 | <GPHemsley> | tantrums are not only for children |
| 15:03 | <zewt> | not only children are childish :) anyway |
| 15:04 | <GPHemsley> | ah, the classic circular definition paradox |
| 15:05 | <GPHemsley> | TIL this exists: http://www.whatcanidoformozilla.org/ |
| 15:05 | <zewt> | wow, that's horrifying |
| 15:05 | <GPHemsley> | ? |
| 15:06 | <zewt> | having worked on open source stuff, the idea of inviting people to "jump in and change stuff" is :| |
| 15:06 | <GPHemsley> | o_0 |
| 15:06 | <GPHemsley> | that's the whole Mozilla culture |
| 15:07 | <zewt> | if people have something they want to accomplish, then it's useful--when they don't, and they're just looking for something to change, they submit crap |
| 15:08 | <zewt> | and people who are asking "what can I do" are in the latter group |
| 15:14 | <annevk> | yeah, life is black & white like that |
| 15:15 | <zewt> | ... |
| 15:15 | <GPHemsley> | hah |
| 15:16 | <zewt> | drunk anne? |
| 15:17 | <GPHemsley> | dunno... I was laughing at the fact that he quit right after |
| 20:34 | <galant> | can I append img element between text nodes? |