| 00:06 | <rektide> | so http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#ping "The ping attribute, if present, gives the URLs of the resources that are interested in being notified if the user follows the hyperlink. The value must be a set of space-separated tokens" yada yada yada |
| 00:06 | <rektide> | once again i call on this channel to confirm unto me someone is on this hackery and it will be better that concatting strings together |
| 00:08 | <rektide> | give me DOMSettableTokenList or give me something else |
| 00:09 | <gsnedders> | Yeah, that seems silly in the DOM. |
| 00:09 | <rektide> | it's not silly. it's filthy dirty heathenism and it must see the brightest light. |
| 00:10 | <gsnedders> | I mean, I guess it's consistent with @rel, but I don't see what other justification there is for that. |
| 00:10 | <rektide> | DOMSettableUrlList |
| 00:10 | <rektide> | it is the ONLY sane answer |
| 00:11 | <rektide> | he has spoken to me, we just chatted |
| 00:11 | <rektide> | all else will melt under this blinding light, this absolute pinacle Most Supreme form |
| 04:58 | <MikeSmit1> | 'I expect that browsers will move to a simplified version of XML that doesn't support namespaces... we'll process XML content using the "foreign content" HTML parsing algorithm' |
| 04:58 | <MikeSmit1> | yes please |
| 04:59 | <MikeSmit1> | from abarth https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/zIg2KC7PyH0/Ym28fD2ZIAsJ |
| 05:50 | <MikeSmit1> | rektide++ |
| 05:53 | <MikeSmit1> | "I have also noticed that IE has with version 10 deprecated use of XPath" |
| 05:53 | <MikeSmit1> | oh yeah? |
| 05:53 | <MikeSmit1> | per https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/zIg2KC7PyH0/njaoWjDEzXAJ |
| 08:42 | <SimonSapin> | gsnedders: argh, I just noticed that my critic comment from last week was a "draft" that I still needed to "submit" |
| 14:14 | <annevk-cloud> | Nice emails Mike on www-tag |
| 14:14 | <annevk-cloud> | Very fitting for this time of year too :) |
| 14:27 | <MikeSmit1> | annevk-cloud: thanks |
| 14:34 | <MikeSmit1> | annevk-cloud: I guess those'll actually be the la[Cst messages I send this year. Less than 30 minutes now before the bells ring here and we step outside into the cold for a bit for a visit for a first 2014 to the neighborhood shrine to get some good luck |
| 15:01 | <annevk-cloud> | MikeSmit1: enjoy! 14 hours left here :) |
| 15:10 | <MikeSmith> | friends, happy new year from the mountains of Nagano |
| 15:11 | <MikeSmith> | annevk-cloud: ^ |
| 15:13 | <MikeSmith> | here's to kicking the shit out of things on the Web together in 2014 |
| 15:18 | <wilhelm> | I'll toast to that! |
| 15:20 | <wilhelm> | MikeSmith: I'll be back in Tokyo in April, by the way. :) |
| 15:27 | <MikeSmith> | wilhelm: looking forward to seeing you. hopefully the cherry blossoms will be in bloom while you're here |
| 15:36 | <gsnedders> | wilhelm: You there for all of April? |
| 15:37 | gsnedders | was vaguely (very vaguely) wondering about appearing in Scandinavia in April, but may well just meet people around Gbg if he goes. |
| 16:02 | <wilhelm> | gsnedders: From the 3rd of April to the 4th of May. |
| 17:27 | <annevk-cloud> | MikeSmith: Nagano? You lucky bastard |
| 17:31 | <MikeSmith> | annevk-cloud: well we not really mountaineering. Just in the Matsumoto foothills. But planning to get up a little higher this week |
| 17:32 | <MikeSmith> | but it's nice right here now anyway |
| 21:04 | <rektide> | oh god. please don't take XPath away |
| 21:04 | <rektide> | what am i supposed to query with instead? |
| 22:16 | <Jasper> | rektide, CSS selectors? |
| 22:24 | <rektide> | Jasper: in many cases yes, for sure |
| 22:25 | <rektide> | i cannot help but be reviled- i don't understand who or why or what for- having structured data is/was being abandoned |
| 22:26 | <rektide> | it seems like one of those crusades where people say "we have to make this technology dumber! think of the dumb stupid developers, they hate this" |
| 22:27 | <rektide> | there's so much tech zealotry, people get so fucking high and mighty jacking off on how much they help make things soo easy for such stupid dumb people that have sooo much of a hard time with the status quo. major ego flexing being "we are so smart we made exactly what the stupid people can finally use" as if that's really going to make a huge difference |
| 22:28 | <rektide> | but this is way upstream of the css selectors now being the only thing left that makes a lick of sense now that it's declared XML has to die |