| 01:31 | <zewt> | hard to take people seriously who say "HTML5.1" with a straight face |
| 01:31 | <smaug____> | that w3 bug? |
| 01:32 | <zewt> | yeah, heh |
| 04:15 | <cabanier> | Hixie: path = new Path(paths [, fillRule ] ) ? |
| 08:39 | <SteveF> | zewt: "HTML5.1" yeah idjits, it's "HTML 5.1" |
| 10:11 | <qFox> | is there any way for an element in the HEAD to be "promoted" to the BODY due to a document write inside of that (or any other) element? besides writing directly into the HEAD itself... |
| 10:12 | <qFox> | hmmm actually, I suppose writing any kind of non-HEAD tag inside it would do so. *writes more tests* |
| 10:16 | <qFox> | otoh, only script style and title actually have content. script and style will just interpret any content semantically theirs, not html. title... dunno, cant force it to become body |
| 10:17 | <qFox> | and it seems title also accepts any content, even <, as literal for the title |
| 10:30 | <Ms2ger> | Does anybody except Gecko support document.load? |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | Ms2ger: I think not |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | was just talking about that with darobin_ and deniak |
| 10:37 | <Ms2ger> | I thought it was claimed that IE also supported it, but I haven't managed to make it show that |
| 10:48 | <darobin_> | I'd try to confirm, but Win8 is being its usual piece of horseshit by forgetting which password it wants me to use |
| 10:50 | MikeSmith | can't be assed to fire up a VM |
| 10:53 | <darobin> | Ms2ger, MikeSmith: yeah, no XMLDocument.load in IE11 |
| 10:54 | <darobin> | IE11's actually a nice browser, shame it only runs on such a horrendous excuse for an OS |
| 11:01 | <MikeSmith> | I actually like the Win8 UI |
| 11:01 | <MikeSmith> | quite a lot |
| 11:02 | <MikeSmith> | it just pretty much requires a touch screen |
| 11:02 | <MikeSmith> | and all windows laptops have touchscreens |
| 11:02 | <MikeSmith> | even the cheap ones |
| 11:03 | <MikeSmith> | I predict that some year wheneven apple gets around to shipping macbooks with touchscreens, it will be hailed as a great revolutionary innovation from apple |
| 11:37 | <Ms2ger> | Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983090 to remove it from Gecko |
| 12:56 | <GPHemsley> | Hmm... should <e; really be parsed as "<e;"? |
| 12:59 | <GPHemsley> | (nevermind that that's not the correct character reference for what I'm looking for) |
| 12:59 | <jgraham> | GPHemsley: Yes |
| 13:00 | <GPHemsley> | that's unfortunate |
| 13:00 | <GPHemsley> | unexpected, from a naïve perspective |
| 13:18 | <MikeSmith> | fyi http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Recruitment/#web-dev |
| 13:19 | <MikeSmith> | W3C Japan is looking to hire a web developer with JavaScript/front-end skills to work on the W3C systems team |
| 13:20 | <MikeSmith> | at Keio SFC |
| 13:33 | <wilhelm_> | MikeSmith: Which way does the position lean the most? Towards UX/HTML/CSS or backend development? |
| 13:37 | <MikeSmith> | wilhelm_: UX/HTML/CSS |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | the systems team has a lot of people with strong backend-dev skills already |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | so in part hoping to balance things out a bit more |
| 13:38 | <wilhelm_> | I have a designer-who-can-code candidate in mind, based in Tokyo. |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | definitely point them my way |
| 13:39 | <MikeSmith> | I'd like to find somebody sooner rather than later |
| 13:39 | <MikeSmith> | at least get interviewed soon |
| 13:39 | <wilhelm_> | I'll prod her. (c: |
| 13:40 | <MikeSmith> | cool |
| 13:56 | <karlcow> | MikeSmith: http://twitter.com/karlpro/status/444109571389288449 |
| 13:57 | <MikeSmith> | ah cool |
| 13:57 | <MikeSmith> | thanks karlcow |
| 13:58 | <MikeSmith> | I'll tweet something in the morning as well |
| 13:58 | <MikeSmith> | for now -> 銭湯 |
| 15:57 | <dglazkov> | good morning, Whatwg! |
| 18:52 | <Domenic_> | Looking for an example site that triggers mixed content warnings... |
| 18:58 | <miketaylr> | Domenic_: https://www.samsung.com/us/ is one |
| 18:59 | <Domenic_> | miketaylr: perfect, thanks |
| 19:29 | <gsnedders> | http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2885 — anyone able to run that in IE11 (or just look and check that the expectation is correct?) |
| 19:31 | <miketaylr> | gsnedders: i get "FAIL (creation failed; event did not fire)" in my IE11 VM |
| 19:32 | <gsnedders> | Okay, can someone tell me what's correct? I don't see anything in any spec justifying it failing. |
| 19:32 | <gsnedders> | But if it fails the event should definitely fire |
| 19:32 | <gsnedders> | (Passes Firefox, fails Chrome IE11) |
| 19:34 | <gsnedders> | Though I don't see anyway for "create a drawing buffer" to fail? |
| 19:54 | <gsnedders> | wat. the IE Feedback allows .xml file uploads, but not .html? |
| 19:57 | <[bjoern]> | XHTML renders all exploits innert. |
| 21:36 | <[bjoern]> | https://twitter.com/annevk/status/444126322390863872 -- That would make public-webcrypto the first W3C discussion list I am subscribed to but cannot post to; it seems more likely that http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/ just says so on the packaging. |
| 21:38 | <arunranga> | Hixie, would you prefer a switch from the origin of the invoking script to the origin of the resource (re: W3C Bug 24998)? It seems wrong to leave something that you think doesn't really work. |
| 21:54 | <Hixie> | arunranga: how is the origin of the resource defined? |
| 21:55 | <arunranga> | The origin of the Blob. |
| 21:55 | <arunranga> | Which could be the origin of the script which coined it, but that seems no better than the origin of the script that called URL.create* |
| 21:56 | <arunranga> | Origin-less scripts shouldn't be used to tack origin |
| 21:59 | <Hixie> | scripts don't have origins |
| 22:00 | <Hixie> | arunranga: you probably mean the effective origin specified by the incumbent script settings object |
| 22:00 | <Hixie> | arunranga: at the time of the method call |
| 22:00 | <Hixie> | arunranga: anyway, i don't care what it is, so long as it is defined :-) |
| 22:01 | <arunranga> | Hixie, you're right. I'm probably using ad-hoc terminology. I mean what you just said :) |
| 22:01 | <arunranga> | Hixie, so I'll update that. I'll scour the spec, but pointers helpful. |
| 22:03 | <Hixie> | just do a search for "the effective script origin specified by the incumbent settings object" |
| 22:03 | <Hixie> | in the html standard |
| 22:04 | <Hixie> | to see how it's done |
| 22:04 | <Hixie> | hth |