| 05:15 | <roc> | ok, whoever posted that w3c meme about the Westboro Baptist Church, that was low. |
| 05:16 | <SamB> | roc: is there any meme related to the Westboro Baptist Church that isn't? |
| 05:32 | tantek | catches up on w3c memes |
| 14:08 | <zewt> | does github just not test their site in firefox or is it a windows/mac thing or something, they use unicode characters all over the place that it doesn't render |
| 14:08 | <zewt> | replacement glyphs all over the place |
| 14:09 | <kbrosnan> | adblock or noscript can and often block external fonts resulting in the fallback glyphs |
| 16:36 | <zewt> | using fonts for icons? bad idea, firefox lets you disable site fonts right in the options menu (so you don't have to squint to read every unreadable font some artist thought looked cool) |
| 16:39 | <astearns> | zewt: so use ligatures for icons - if the font doesn't load, you get 'menu' instead of the icon :) |
| 17:07 | <SamB> | astearns: hah |
| 21:37 | <jgraham> | astearns: Be careful what you wish for, if people start doing that, the web might start to work much better with web fonts disabled |
| 21:41 | <odinho> | Wouldn't want that, now would we? |
| 21:43 | <SamB> | yeah, wanting the web to work better, that's crazy |
| 21:53 | <jgraham> | I imagine adobe would be annoyed if people started disabling web fonts ;) |
| 21:54 | <SamB> | and your point is? |
| 21:55 | <jgraham> | Well I guess it depends how well astearns' opinions match his employers' |
| 22:51 | <roc> | zewt: got an example of that github unicode character issue? |
| 22:51 | <roc> | I haven't seen it |
| 23:21 | <zewt> | https://zewt.org/~glenn/github.png |
| 23:21 | <zewt> | happens if "allow pages to choose their own fonts" is unchecked in firefox |
| 23:26 | <SamB> | also happens if you use noscript, no? |
| 23:26 | <zewt> | no idea |
| 23:27 | <zewt> | wouldn't make sense, but noscript doesn't make much sense anyway unless you have to deal with really abusive sites |
| 23:28 | <SamB> | eh, it's a good way to check for graceful degradation ;-P |
| 23:28 | <SamB> | /progressive enhancement |
