| 00:21 | <TabAtkins> | smaug____: Hmm, I guess you're right. I was thinking that replaced element-ness would affect hit detection. |
| 17:31 | <MikeSmith> | cool to see that the verb "to Pilgrim" has finally entered into the language https://twitter.com/sgalineau/status/547443177922117632 |
| 17:34 | <caitp-> | as in "to Scott Pilgrim"? |
| 18:10 | <miketaylr> | as in to Mark Pilgrim |
| 23:38 | <zewt> | chrome using 8 gigs of memory; i guess browsers these days assume that browsing is the only thing anyone does, so they can take over the entire machine |
| 23:39 | <zewt> | i'm seriously having to look at upgrading to beyond 16 gb because that's just not enough with browsers today |
| 23:43 | <jgraham> | Chrome isn't exactly noted for being memory efficient in the many-tabs case |
| 23:44 | <zewt> | that's sort of above and beyond |
| 23:45 | <jgraham> | Well it very much depends what you are doing with it |
| 23:46 | <jgraham> | If you just opened an 8Gb image file, it seems entirely reasonable |
| 23:47 | <jgraham> | (OK, that's a silly example, but the point stands that saying "my browser is using X amount of memory is just as silly as saying "my desktop environment including all applications is using X amoutn of memory, but not noting what the applications are) |
| 23:47 | <jgraham> | That sentence needed some closing quotes |
| 23:49 | <zewt> | not really; a single tab isn't analogous to a single application, having 50 tabs open is nothing like having 50 applications open |
| 23:51 | <caitp-> | that doesn't mean 1 tab === adobe premiere or something |
| 23:51 | <zewt> | it seems like chrome doesn't even do things like unload images from tabs you haven't viewed in a while (not that I've poked at the internals) |
| 23:51 | <jgraham> | A single tab seems very like a single application |
| 23:52 | <jgraham> | e.g. a single tab containing gmail seems a lot like a single client-side mail application |
| 23:54 | <zewt> | most pages aren't gmail |
| 23:56 | <zewt> | i'd prefer to use firefox anyway (has its own problem, but OOM'ing my system isn't one of them), but it started choking hard after some update; i do need to go back and look at that again |
| 23:57 | <zewt> | s/problem/problems/ |
| 23:57 | <jgraham> | Indeed. Similarly most applications aren't (insert your favourite mail client here) |
| 23:57 | <zewt> | most tabs aren't like an application at all, they're like a complex document |
| 23:58 | <zewt> | and more to the point, it's the browser's job to keep the memory usage (along with all of the other messes) of the web in check |