| 00:06 | <jgraham> | gsnedders: So I realised |
| 03:23 | <MikeSmith> | it seems important to pay attention to what the commentor at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27786#c4 and https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27786#c8 is saying |
| 03:25 | <MikeSmith> | I'm not claiming he's right but he seems reasonably clueful and focused on solving real problems and I would guess his comments are representative of a good number of other also-clueful webdevs |
| 03:36 | <MikeSmith> | cool to see that gsnedders has joined the Servo team https://twitter.com/gsnedders/status/553738615151280128 |
| 03:36 | <MikeSmith> | congrats gsnedders! |
| 03:36 | <MikeSmith> | smart move |
| 03:39 | <gsnedders> | More like joined the accidental Servo team :P |
| 03:47 | <MikeSmith> | isn't the whole thing a troll? |
| 03:47 | <MikeSmith> | so you got roped the doped |
| 03:47 | <MikeSmith> | trolled in |
| 03:47 | <MikeSmith> | trolls all the way down |
| 03:49 | <MikeSmith> | since (I heard) it was started as a bar bet to see how many people would be silly enough to take it seriously |
| 03:49 | MikeSmith | looks around for Ms2ger |
| 03:51 | <gsnedders> | yeah, writing a whole new web browser from scratch is just stupid |
| 03:51 | MikeSmith | finds it no fun to be a troll falling in the woods if there's nobody around to be outraged by the sound of one troll falling |
| 03:52 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: バカまじめ |
| 03:53 | <gsnedders> | That's Japanese to me. |
| 03:57 | <MikeSmith> | holy god speaking of バカまじめ I just got a TV and I'm sitting here watching the public TV channel that has captions and I noticed some use of ruby in the the captions just now |
| 03:58 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: http://cdn2.natalie.mu/media/owarai/2014-08/extra/news_header_youpackCM_01.jpg |
| 03:58 | <MikeSmith> | バカまじめ literally means "stupidly serious" |
| 03:58 | <MikeSmith> | in a good way |
| 03:59 | <MikeSmith> | the joke of the add in that image is that he's Japan's most famous comedian, really funny guy |
| 03:59 | <MikeSmith> | but in these CMs and ads he plays it deadpan |
| 04:00 | <MikeSmith> | anyway for the record the Servo project is one thing I finding seriously inspirational right now |
| 06:53 | <MikeSmith> | "if you're having trouble with current versions of browser engines, what we most want you to do is raise the issues that you're having so that we can fix them." |
| 06:53 | <MikeSmith> | https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27786#c10 |
| 06:53 | <MikeSmith> | bravo dbaron |
| 10:16 | <GPHemsley> | "I'm sorry, Hixie, but you have no idea about browser interoperability." |
| 10:31 | <Ms2ger> | Troll or idiot? |
| 10:34 | <jgraham> | Why not both? |
| 10:39 | <matijs> | just rude. |
| 10:42 | <jgraham> | Alo, where is this? I need a laugh |
| 10:43 | <jgraham> | *Also |
| 11:16 | <MikeSmith> | the sentiment in that quote from GPHemsley sounds like something the OP of https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27786 might have said somewhere, but at least he didn't say those words in any of his comments in that bug |
| 11:16 | <MikeSmith> | maybe GPHemsley is paraphrasing hime |
| 11:18 | <MikeSmith> | he did say「@hixie Believes in unicorns. "If I could, I would remove navigator.* entirely. Pages shouldn't be able to distinguish different browsers".」https://twitter.com/hexalys/status/553702038110892032 |
| 11:18 | <MikeSmith> | where the part he quotes there is something Hixie said in that bug |
| 11:19 | <MikeSmith> | anyway, does anybody happen to know if WebVTT supports use of <ruby> markup in text tracks? |
| 11:20 | <MikeSmith> | I ask because I just got a TV literally yesterday, and watching programs with the closed-captioning turned on, I notice fairly frequent use of ruby annotations in the captions |
| 11:28 | <MikeSmith> | I also notice that while the captions use full-width katakana for cases where the katakana is for Japanese words (like animal names or the word メス, which means "female" (animal)) -- which is normal and is the case for katakana used in books, etc. -- but for some reason the captions consistently use half-width katakana for cases where the katakana represents non-Japanese words |
| 12:49 | <annevk> | So I'm trying to recount the problems with mutation events, but I'm having a hard time coming up with examples of the harder problems |
| 12:50 | <annevk> | There's a couple around performance and such and how easy it is to create loops, but I want to study the cases that caused browsers to crash and hang |
| 12:52 | annevk | stumbles upon https://annevankesteren.nl/2011/06/mutation |