| 06:51 | <zcorpan> | http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150312_YY_57415756bcdc2c4945e32d9c9f4c8dda/1/details/ big chunk of SSL negotiation for the subdomains |
| 06:54 | <zcorpan> | wonder why start render is 1.5s after the stylesheet has loaded |
| 06:58 | <annevk> | Where is this bz thread from w3cmemes? |
| 06:59 | <zcorpan> | <http://www.w3.org/mid/579391425936261⊙wyr>; |
| 07:01 | <MikeSmit1> | beautiful |
| 07:04 | <MikeSmit1> | w3cmemes should just pay that guy to write all their material |
| 08:33 | <Ms2ger> | https://twitter.com/pcwalton/status/575836058560004096 |
| 11:56 | <annevk> | Ms2ger: good thing it's still maintained |
| 11:56 | <Ms2ger> | Uhuh |
| 12:13 | <beverloo> | annevk, just pushed the PR, time to do your ssh tricks :) |
| 12:13 | <beverloo> | https://notifications.spec.whatwg.org/ |
| 12:17 | <annevk> | beverloo: done |
| 12:17 | <beverloo> | cool, thanks |
| 12:20 | <smaug____> | does anyone have a link to page which triggers mixed mode warning or some such |
| 12:20 | <annevk> | smaug____: https://dump.testsuite.org/mixed-content/ has some examples |
| 12:20 | <smaug____> | ta |
| 13:25 | <Ms2ger> | http://testsuites.opera.com/ is dead? |
| 13:25 | <frivoal> | it seems to be |
| 13:30 | <jgraham> | Maybe zcorpan or someone can help you retrieve any missing resources? |
| 13:32 | <zcorpan> | it got killed a few months ago. i think the stuff on there is just gone (but might have unpolished versions on t) |
| 13:33 | <jgraham> | It wasn't on svn somewhere, was it? |
| 13:34 | <jgraham> | That might be gone too ofc… |
| 13:34 | <zcorpan> | http://web.archive.org/web/20130227122600/http://testsuites.opera.com/ might still have something |
| 13:35 | <zcorpan> | jgraham: hmm maybe, i don't recall how it was set up. i can have a look |
| 13:35 | <jgraham> | Is Xiven still there? I guess he would know |
| 13:36 | <Ms2ger> | I don't know that there was a lot on there that wasn't otherwise released |
| 13:37 | <jgraham> | Ah, I was presuming that there was a test in prosto-testo that depended on it or something |
| 13:37 | <jgraham> | *presto |
| 13:38 | <Ms2ger> | I had it in an open tab for some reason |
| 13:38 | <wanderview> | Domenic: in regards to Fetch Response objects and streams... do you expect them to expose ReadableByteStream, and not just ReadableStream, in the future? my first impression was that the body was better represented as a byte stream than a message-oriented stream (although that can be done by passed buffers as the messages of course) |
| 13:39 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, seems like it could be useful to check if https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-pOErSaZkulu-rRS_Hhj7d8p1J7aJnNJcYs28Pswu0/edit?pli=1 contains anything that isn't on ttwf, but I don't really feel like it :) |
| 13:41 | <zcorpan> | it seems the testsuites there are in presto-testo except for the cookies testsuite |
| 13:46 | jgraham | wonders if he has found the ultimate way to make Ms2ger unhappy |
| 13:47 | <Ms2ger> | Oh? |
| 13:49 | <jgraham> | I changed the serialization in wptrunner for manifest files. And then regenerated all the existing expected data. So I have ended up with something more or less unreviewable |
| 13:49 | <jgraham> | https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/3fac90bd84f7 |
| 13:50 | <jgraham> | OTOH it does remove a lot of crap leftover from when tests changed names and similar |
| 13:51 | <frivoal> | ms2ger: as you go through presto-testo to find the tests that have already been submitted, I suppose you also run into tests that haven't been yet. Do you keep track of this? It would good to have (in a readme or something) a list of test that haven't been checked vs test have are known not to be submitted (as of a certain date) |
| 13:51 | <zcorpan> | is anyone interested in the cookie testsuite? |
| 13:52 | <Ms2ger> | zcorpan, I'd be curious what Servo's results look like |
| 13:53 | <Ms2ger> | frivoal, I haven't kept track |
| 13:57 | <jgraham> | zcorpan: It seems in general like an interesting thing since cookies aren't exactly known for being easy or having great interop |
| 13:58 | <frivoal> | Ms2ger: Maybe we should start? What would be the most convenient format? |
| 14:00 | <Ms2ger> | An issue, maybe? |
| 14:02 | <frivoal> | You mean a "clean up and submit" issue for each non-submitted test suite? That would work pretty well to find things that need to be submitted. A bit more tricky to find things for which we need be checked if they have been submitted |
| 14:05 | <frivoal> | I was thinking of a file in each leaf directory. If there's not file, we haven't checked. If there's no directory, it's been submitted, so we deleted it. If there's a file, it contains the date when we last checked and couldn't find it upstream |
| 14:05 | <frivoal> | s/not/no/ |
| 14:06 | <zcorpan> | hmm. 63.94% of pages in httparchive has direction:rtl somewhere. that's crazy |
| 14:08 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: Not sure if there's anything there that really needs to be on TestTWF |
| 14:08 | <Ms2ger> | wfm |
| 14:10 | <gsnedder1> | jgraham: I thought there was decent interop with cookies, just not what any spec said until a few years ago |
| 14:12 | <Ms2ger> | gsnedder1, Servo :) |
| 14:12 | <gsnedders> | Ms2ger: pff, servo! :P |
| 14:13 | <gsnedders> | You guys can't break the web because the web doesn't work already! |
| 14:25 | <Ms2ger> | Anyone want to implement onbeforescriptexecute/onafterscriptexecute attributes? |
| 14:35 | Ms2ger | finds http://www.w3.org/2013/04/test_plan2.html |
| 14:42 | <jgraham> | The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men |
| 14:42 | <jgraham> | Gang aft agley |
| 14:42 | <Ms2ger> | Whatever happened to krisk? |
| 14:46 | <jgraham> | Good question. I don't know if he survived the Great QA Culls |
| 14:52 | <frivoal> | Ms2ger: https://github.com/operasoftware/presto-testo/blob/master/README.md updated to include info on how to send pull requests, including the file to track things that have not been submitted |
| 15:07 | <Domenic> | wanderview: yes, definitely ReadableByteStream. We have a very nice design now though, where rbs.getReader().read() acts the same as a message-oriented stream, but rbs.getBYOBReader().read(arrayBufferView) will allow you to use a pre-allocated memory region. |
| 15:07 | <Domenic> | wanderview: so, ReadableByteStream ends up being a superset (from the consumer's point of view) of ReadableStream |
| 15:07 | <wanderview> | Domenic: ok, thats nice |
| 16:10 | hemanth | : nmotw -> http://nmotw.in/confirm-simple/ A simple com�mand-line tool to confirm user inputs. |
| 16:54 | <annevk> | Hmm, seems like I finally need to move my Google Code projects |
| 17:12 | <beverloo> | annevk, service-worker based web notifications, for Android too, are now in chrome beta :) |
| 17:12 | <annevk> | beverloo: congrats |
| 17:13 | <annevk> | I guess that's another thing we should tackle once SW-v1 has landed |
| 17:13 | <beverloo> | yeah, getting more implementations of all this stuff would be great |
| 17:13 | <wanderview> | annevk: we have a large list of stuff after SW v1 :-) |
| 17:14 | <beverloo> | I'm hoping to get "data", "silent", SWR.getNotifications() in chrome 43 |
| 17:14 | <wanderview> | we still need to do push |
| 17:14 | <beverloo> | wanderview, fwiw, my team's doing push as well |
| 17:14 | <annevk> | wanderview: push is sorta ready though, no? |
| 17:14 | <annevk> | wanderview: but yeah, post v1 is prolly more than pre v1 |
| 17:14 | <wanderview> | annevk: have we started implementation in gecko? I guess I was talking implementation vs spec |
| 17:14 | <annevk> | since well, growth |
| 17:15 | <annevk> | wanderview: nsm has been working on it for quite a while, but a lot of that was also the pre-SW stuff |
| 17:15 | <annevk> | (push changed in design) |
| 17:15 | <wanderview> | hmm, ok |
| 17:20 | <annevk> | So we moved some of https://code.google.com/p/html5/ but some of it hasn't really changed at all |
| 17:20 | <annevk> | Anyone opinions on what should happen with that? |
| 17:20 | <annevk> | Should I migrate it as a legacy-html5 repository inside whatwg or some such? |
| 17:31 | <gsnedders> | I wonder if all the Ruby and PHP bugs on html5lib ever got migrated? |
| 17:53 | <annevk> | Not sure |
| 17:54 | <annevk> | I indicated the project moved but we could still import the old stuff someplace if desired |
| 17:56 | <jgraham> | I wonder if anyone cares |
| 18:01 | <annevk> | I put the html5 thing here: https://github.com/whatwg/old-google-code-html5 |
| 18:23 | <cvrebert> | Am I correct that the typical UA behavior of "scrolling the newly-focused element into view (if necessary)" falls under step 4 of https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/interaction.html#focus-update-steps , and is thus not standardized? |
| 18:27 | <cvrebert> | ...and to answer my own question: Yes; https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27913 |