| 00:24 | <TabAtkins> | Domenic: Do you use Bikeshed's piping features? |
| 00:32 | <MikeSmith> | in Mozilla bug reviews, what is rs=me |
| 00:35 | <heycam> | rubberstamp |
| 00:35 | <heycam> | a review without closely at the patch |
| 00:42 | <MikeSmith> | heycam: ah ok, thanks |
| 08:29 | <MikeSmith> | is location.assign(location.hash) is reasonable workaround to force navigation to the right anchor |
| 08:30 | <MikeSmith> | in a case where other script from a page is causing it to fail to scroll to the right place |
| 08:32 | MikeSmith | is trying to troubleshoot a buggy document and would prefer to workaround it rather than wade through its gobs of jquery-based script trying to figure out what's preventing it from scrolling to the expected anchor |
| 09:03 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Web development advice? Tried #html-wg? ;) |
| 09:06 | <darobin> | hahahaha |
| 09:06 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: I'm not sure that'll work if the browser thinks it's already at the hash, no? |
| 09:08 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: this is how it's solved in ReSpec https://github.com/w3c/respec/blob/develop/js/core/location-hash.js |
| 09:25 | MikeSmith | looks |
| 09:28 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: that code does some tricks to detect whether the user has already scrolled during load (so as not to re-scroll them back to the anchor) |
| 09:28 | <darobin> | you might not need that |
| 09:29 | <darobin> | but the heart of the trick is to unset location.hash, then set it again |
| 09:29 | <darobin> | IIRC nothing else worked, at least when that code was written |
| 09:31 | <MikeSmith> | darobin: The location.assign(location.hash) way does work for me in my problem case, which is: location.hash does already have the right value (the anchor I want to scroll to) but other existing (broken) script on the page has caused it to scroll to the wrong place |
| 09:32 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: it's quite possible that the code I'm pointing you to was written to address a browser that is no longer an issue |
| 09:40 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: you're getting more like Ms2ger in your old age |
| 09:40 | <Ms2ger> | Get off our lawn |
| 09:40 | <jgraham> | Maybe I am Ms2ger |
| 09:41 | <MikeSmith> | or maybe y'all are actually twin brothers separated at birth |
| 09:41 | <Ms2ger> | Has anyone ever seen us in the same room anyway? |
| 09:41 | <MikeSmith> | I did, in a dream |
| 09:41 | <MikeSmith> | I won't go into the details |
| 09:42 | <Ms2ger> | tmi already |
| 09:42 | <MikeSmith> | heh |
| 11:40 | <MikeSmith> | darobin: in https://lists.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-platform/2015-June/010235.html you must mean linked data is deployed to millions of *pages*, right? (not millions of domains) |
| 11:58 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: no, domains |
| 11:58 | <darobin> | counting pages is pretty useless |
| 11:58 | <darobin> | some of those sites have infinite URL spaces |
| 11:59 | <darobin> | I have it on very good authority, I didn't include the source because I'm not sure that I can quote it |
| 12:00 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: search engines and social networks do useful stuff with that, it's not surprising that it's successful |
| 12:00 | <darobin> | there's a huge incentive |
| 12:49 | <MikeSmith> | darobin: so yeah I see that https://schema.org/ says "Over 10 million sites use Schema.org to markup their web pages and email messages." |
| 12:50 | <MikeSmith> | (dunno how a site can use it mark up email messages though) |
| 12:51 | <MikeSmith> | I also see that Guha said back at the end of 2013, "about 15 percent of the pages we crawl have schema.org markup... Now over 5 million sites are using it." |
| 12:51 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.dataversity.net/schema-org-chat-googles-r-v-guha/ |
| 12:52 | <MikeSmith> | still I count that as a success measure specifically for schema.org rather than for Linked Data in general |
| 12:52 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: there you go |
| 12:52 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: FYI it was 7 million at TPAC |
| 12:53 | <MikeSmith> | yeah clearly it's still growing |
| 12:55 | <MikeSmith> | darobin: also 10 million sites is still only 3% or 4% of the sites on the Web, right? |
| 12:55 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: yeah, but it's not a random 10 million, most are from the top destinations |
| 12:55 | <MikeSmith> | sure |
| 12:56 | <darobin> | MikeSmith: re email, it does stuff in GMail (and some other clients) |
| 12:56 | <darobin> | I'm sure Google can measure that :) |
| 12:57 | <darobin> | in fact it's the only way of adding interactivity to email, so that's another big incentive |
| 14:23 | <Domenic> | TabAtkins: I do not think I use Bikeshed's piping features. |
| 17:55 | <TabAtkins> | Domenic: Cool, no problem then. Pretty sure krit is the only person who is. Just turning off the auto-piping, as it's a misfeature. |