| 01:43 | <jack_> | is anybody here ? |
| 01:46 | <gsnedders> | there are likely people around |
| 01:46 | <gsnedders> | you're probably best off asking and lurking around till someone answers |
| 01:46 | <jack_> | I need to ask something on HTML DOCTYPE. |
| 01:49 | <gsnedders> | just ask it. |
| 01:50 | <jack_> | okay! so here is my question... |
| 01:51 | <jack_> | why we use exclamation mark (!) in DOCTYPE declaration ? |
| 01:51 | <gsnedders> | Oh. Now that is historical! |
| 01:51 | <gsnedders> | Short version: because SGML did. |
| 01:52 | <jack_> | and long version ? |
| 01:53 | <gsnedders> | Well, SGML will have to disambiguate it from a start tag. |
| 01:53 | <gsnedders> | *will have ahd |
| 01:53 | <gsnedders> | **will have had |
| 01:54 | <gsnedders> | From memory (my copy of the SGML spec is hundreds of miles away!), SGML doesn't disallow any element names. |
| 01:54 | <jack_> | and one more is, why only angle brackets <> is used, and not square bracket or curly bracket ? |
| 01:55 | <gsnedders> | As opposed to using square brackets or curly brackets for DOCTYPE and CDATA sections and the like? |
| 02:11 | <jack_> | ( ) this can also be used why only <> brackets in HTML? |
| 02:15 | <gsnedders> | You'd have to ask timbl that. Probably because he was going for something: a) simple; b) resembled SGML (in its default settings). |
| 02:22 | <jack_> | can anyone provide a best link for elaboration on SGML, think this as i am going to or want to learn SGML. |
| 02:34 | <jack__> | can anyone provide a best link for elaboration on SGML, think this as i am going to or want to learn SGML. |
| 02:35 | <Domenic> | google or wikipedia are likely the way to go for that |
| 02:37 | <jack__> | Its just providing me the information. I want to learn the SGML code or GML code. I want to know why only angle brackets are used and why not square or curly bracket. |
| 02:47 | <Domenic> | Again, I think Google or Wikipedia will be your best guide there. |
| 02:48 | <Domenic> | None of us is really an expert on decades-old technological ancestors of our current technology, I don't think |
| 06:27 | <annevk> | Hixie and zcorpan prolly are somewhat experts in SGML stuff |
| 06:28 | <annevk> | Hixie once famously convinced browsers to implement SGML-style comments |
| 07:43 | <Ms2ger> | -moz-prefixed gradients are dead \o/ |
| 14:22 | <calvaris> | Domenic, tyoshino: where's Streams API implemented? V8 or Chromium? |
| 15:11 | <Domenic> | calvaris: Blink. There are plans to make it a V8 extra, but it would still be living in the Blink repo. |
| 21:37 | <captain_> | is whatwg under control of google? |
| 21:37 | <boogyman> | no |
| 21:39 | <smaug____> | captain_: https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_is_the_WHATWG.3F |
| 21:43 | <captain_> | wikipedia said there is only one decision maker |
| 22:27 | <smaug____> | captain_: wikipedia is then wrong |
| 22:27 | <smaug____> | wikipedia is wrong |
| 22:28 | <smaug____> | annevk sure is editing several whatwg specs |
| 23:07 | <Domenic> | Normally I find editing Wikipedia to be an exercise in frustration but I wonder if it's worth updating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHATWG#Specifications |
| 23:17 | <TabAtkins> | Ms2ger: Yay! |
| 23:37 | <jgraham> | That wikipedia page is all kinds of wrong |