| 05:28 | <botie> | othermaciej, at 2015-08-23 01:26 UTC, MikeSmith said: Wondering if you have any opinion on implementation of Subresource Integrity https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148363 |
| 05:29 | <othermaciej> | MikeSmith: We are interested and looking into it, no firm commitment. |
| 05:31 | <MikeSmith> | othermaciej: ok, thanks |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | othermaciej: as far as the WebAppSec group in general, it seems like it's turned out to an exceptionally productive and useful group |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | which may not be saying much relative to some other W3C groups |
| 05:33 | <MikeSmith> | so even in absolute terms it seems like a highly productive place to get some Web-security-related problems solved |
| 05:47 | <othermaciej> | I don't know if this has happened yet but we were planning to put people from both WebKit and some Apple security teams in WebAppSec |
| 05:51 | <MikeSmith> | othermaciej: ah cool |
| 05:51 | <MikeSmith> | genuinely glad to hear that |
| 05:51 | <othermaciej> | We are pretty positive on what WebAppSec has been coming up with, as a matter of general sentiment. |
| 05:54 | <MikeSmith> | yeah it's an encouraging group |
| 05:55 | <MikeSmith> | they have a very good chair and one particularly good focused-on-just-getting-stuff-done editor |
| 05:55 | <MikeSmith> | it all comes down to individual people in the end |
| 05:55 | <MikeSmith> | regardless of where the work takes place |
| 05:57 | <MikeSmith> | anyway, I think the additional active involvement will definitely help a lot too |
| 09:07 | <zcorpan> | hello everyone |
| 09:10 | <hasather> | zcorpan: hi! |
| 09:11 | <zcorpan> | sup hasather |
| 09:12 | <Ms2ger> | Aloha |
| 09:13 | <Ms2ger> | Wanna review https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2082 so I don't have to? |
| 09:14 | <zcorpan> | my first day and you give me document.write? why thank you |
| 09:16 | <Ms2ger> | It has document.write? |
| 09:16 | <Ms2ger> | Then I definitely want someone else to do it :) |
| 09:19 | <Ms2ger> | zcorpan, actually, while I have you here... |
| 09:22 | <Ms2ger> | Apparently Opera wrote a bunch of reftests for css21 tests back in the day, and lastorset released the references, but not which tests they were references for, any chance you could find that out? :) |
| 09:25 | <zcorpan> | Ms2ger: possibly. got a link to PR? |
| 09:25 | <Ms2ger> | https://github.com/operasoftware/presto-testo/commit/a0acfbef13a3f8cae67cc7145216d31b67aa8eb4 |
| 09:27 | <zcorpan> | "There is an old database matching them to tests, but we're waiting to gain access." |
| 09:28 | zcorpan | lunch |
| 09:59 | <roc> | "my first day"? |
| 10:00 | <Ms2ger> | He's been on vacation for a while |
| 10:00 | <Ms2ger> | We haven't poached him, sadly :) |
| 10:21 | <MikeSmith> | welcome back zcorpan |
| 10:43 | <zcorpan> | Ms2ger: reviewed |
| 10:47 | <nox> | Ms2ger: Upstream'd test btw. |
| 11:01 | zcorpan | -> Paris |
| 11:08 | <Ms2ger> | nox, yeah, I saw, thank you |
| 11:12 | <nox> | Ms2ger: I was so confused. |
| 11:12 | <nox> | Ms2ger: "Where is css21_dev? Where are the HTML files?" |
| 11:13 | <Ms2ger> | Yeah :/ |
| 12:42 | <annevk> | ooh, zcorpan is back, but not on IRC |
| 12:42 | <annevk> | maybe finally we can start specifying when synchronous layout happens |
| 13:12 | <smaug____> | hmm, where is .style property defined |
| 13:12 | <smaug____> | I thought CSSOM but no |
| 13:12 | <smaug____> | oh, maybe I'm looking at wrong spec |
| 13:12 | <tantek> | smaug____: well this is the attribute part: http://www.w3.org/TR/css-style-attr/ |
| 13:13 | <annevk> | smaug____: https://drafts.csswg.org/cssom/#the-elementcssinlinestyle-interface |
| 13:14 | <smaug____> | does anything define at which point the DOM attribute is updated |
| 13:14 | <smaug____> | when .style.foo is set |
| 13:15 | <annevk> | smaug____: I don't think so |
| 13:16 | <annevk> | smaug____: actually, it seems CSSOM does |
| 13:16 | <annevk> | smaug____: "Mutating the declarations must set the style content attribute on the context object to the serialization of the declarations. If the style content attribute is set, changed or removed, the declarations must be updated as appropriate." |
| 13:16 | <annevk> | smaug____: bit too hand-wavy for my taste, but it is there |
| 13:17 | <smaug____> | indeed |
| 13:17 | <smaug____> | the case I'm wondering is .style.foo = "some invalid value" |
| 13:18 | <annevk> | If zcorpan was actually on IRC he could go and clarify... |
| 13:20 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: zcorpan is apparently on the way to Paris atm |
| 13:21 | <MikeSmith> | per earlier comment here |
| 13:21 | <MikeSmith> | about 2 hours ago |
| 13:26 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: could get botie to leave a comment for him |
| 13:36 | <TabAtkins> | annevk: I just pushed the serializer changes. Expect a huge output diff. |
| 13:37 | <MikeSmith> | hey TabAtkins about Chris Lord's Navigation Transitions spec |
| 13:37 | <MikeSmith> | is there plans for that in the CSS WG? |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | as far as taking it up as a deliverable |
| 13:38 | <TabAtkins> | I have plans to do review on it this week. |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | ok |
| 13:38 | <TabAtkins> | We haven't discussed taking it as a CSSWG deliverable yet. |
| 13:38 | <MikeSmith> | other Chrome team interest in possibly impelementing it? |
| 13:39 | <MikeSmith> | or maybe that th's pending your review |
| 13:39 | <TabAtkins> | We've discussed it a bit, but aren't convinced yet that is hitting the important use-cases properly. |
| 13:40 | <TabAtkins> | This'll show up in my review, yeah |
| 13:41 | <MikeSmith> | ok cool |
| 14:17 | <philipj> | TabAtkins: Did you just change something about whitespace in Bikeshed? |
| 14:18 | <philipj> | TabAtkins: I now get whitespace before commas where it shouldn't be, and other spurious whitespace changes |
| 14:18 | <TabAtkins> | Yup, committed a big serialization change |
| 14:18 | <TabAtkins> | To make whitespace less stupid |
| 14:19 | <TabAtkins> | Oh weird, file an issue on me with some example text |
| 14:19 | <TabAtkins> | Ohhhh I bet I know what I did wrong |
| 14:19 | <TabAtkins> | Will fix tonight |
| 14:26 | <philipj> | TabAtkins: Should I still file a bug? |
| 14:30 | <TabAtkins> | Yeah, so u don't forget |
| 14:30 | <TabAtkins> | I |
| 14:33 | <philipj> | TabAtkins: https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed/issues/464 |
| 17:33 | <ccardona-work> | Good morning/afternoon WHATWG crew o/ |
| 19:27 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: help? FATAL ERROR: The argument autolink 'other' for 'DOMPoint/fromPoint()' has too many possible overloads to disambiguate. Please specify the full method signature this argument is for. https://drafts.fxtf.org/bikeshed/geometry/ |
| 19:38 | <wanderview> | Domenic: stupid question... does the Promise constructor call the provided callback synchronously or in a microtask? |
| 19:38 | <Domenic> | wanderview: sync |
| 19:38 | <wanderview> | thanks... I didn't see anything about the constructor in https://promisesaplus.com/ |
| 19:39 | <Domenic> | wanderview: yeah, that's just the .then method for promise libraries. ES2015 promise spec is in the ES spec. |
| 19:39 | <Domenic> | Promises/A+ is somewhat historical at this point, I'd say? |
| 19:39 | <wanderview> | I just searched for "promise spec" and it was the first link |
| 19:40 | <Domenic> | huh, will you look at that |
| 19:40 | <Domenic> | maybe might be worth adding a link at the top... |
| 19:41 | <wanderview> | wow... the es spec thing to dynamically keep the header at the top is really buggy in FF nightly |
| 19:41 | <wanderview> | wonder if it could just use position:sticky |
| 19:41 | <wanderview> | or maybe it already is |
| 19:44 | <TabAtkins> | zcorpan: Will check on it. Are you referring to an argument via autolinking? |
| 19:45 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: i don't know what part it's complaining about. i have a <dfn> that mentions the argument, but other than that dunno |
| 19:45 | <Domenic> | wanderview: yeah I am pretty sure it does use position: sticky |
| 19:50 | <wanderview> | Domenic: hmm... now I can't duplicate the glitching |
| 19:50 | <wanderview> | oh well |
| 19:50 | <Domenic> | nightly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 19:51 | <wanderview> | aha! caught it https://www.dropbox.com/s/oizffofxdfgoypb/Screenshot%202015-08-24%2015.51.42.png?dl=0 |
