02:39
<heycam>
annevk, I agree
02:39
<heycam>
it's too awkward to use any
02:41
<heycam>
annevk, I filed https://github.com/heycam/webidl/issues/60
05:09
<hendry>
anyone care to please review my table markup for an invoice type use case? https://jsbin.com/bovuyo/edit?html,css,output
05:14
<annevk_>
heycam|away: ta
08:01
<Ms2ger>
mkwst, no, what you ought to do is reference the WHATWG spec
08:02
<mkwst>
Ms2ger: 1. Obviously. 2. That hasn't been a successful path for snapshots published by the W3C.
08:04
<MikeSmith>
as far as #2, I think we have some hope of seeing a change get made there within coming weeks/months
08:05
<MikeSmith>
the WebAppSec bringing it up at TPAC would help
08:06
<MikeSmith>
I would personally prefer the group state it something along the lines of some euphemistic formulation of "We think this de-facto policy is bullshit, and it's preventing us from getting or work done. So stop."
08:07
<Ms2ger>
I would prefer a non-euphemistic formulation
08:09
<MikeSmith>
Ms2ger: I'm shocked that you would say that. Very out of character
08:10
<MikeSmith>
your middle name is, after all, "Tact"
08:13
<Ms2ger>
> ... excluding any that are descendants of descendants of the option element ...
09:03
<MikeSmith>
ah cool, now our keygen johnny one-note is reopening ancient resolved bugzilla issues against dead components
09:03
<MikeSmith>
http://stemkoski.github.io/Three.js/Graphulus-Curve.html
09:03
<MikeSmith>
oofs
09:03
<MikeSmith>
http://stemkoski.github.io/Three.js/Graphulus-Curve.html
09:03
<MikeSmith>
shit
09:05
<MikeSmith>
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13518#c4
09:05
<MikeSmith>
(momentary copy-paste fail)
09:44
<rits>
Hello, i have build the source on my computer and want to work on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27672 as my first bug
10:04
<zcorpan>
rits: great! do you want guidance?
10:05
<rits>
zcorpan: yeah do i need to get it assigned or just i can file the PR directly
10:06
<zcorpan>
rits: just file the PR
10:06
<rits>
zcorpan: ok great! thanks
10:06
<zcorpan>
say "Fixes https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27672."; on a separate line in the commit message
10:07
<rits>
zcorpan: ok will do that, thanks :)
10:08
<zcorpan>
thank *you* :-)
11:32
<rits>
zcorpan: Hii, i made changes in the index file but then git status is showing up working directory clean?
11:33
<zcorpan>
rits: edit the "source" file
11:33
<zcorpan>
index is the generated one
11:33
<rits>
zcorpan: ok
11:59
<rits>
zcorpan: the git status is still showing the working directory clean,i have made changes in the source file now and run the build script also
12:00
<zcorpan>
rits: are you in the html directory or html-build directory?
12:00
<rits>
html-build
12:01
<rits>
yeah its showing the changes :)
12:01
<rits>
in html directory
12:01
<zcorpan>
good :-)
12:02
<rits>
:)
12:35
<rits>
zcorpan: Should i file the PR through master branch or from the different branch?
12:39
<zcorpan>
rits: you should create a new branch in your fork, make the changes in that branch, and the PR should be to whatwg/html master
12:39
<rits>
zcorpan: ok
18:57
<rits>
Hello, While making a PR i am getting fatal errors, as the permissions denied
18:57
<rits>
what steps should i follow as i made a different branch in my forked repository and tried to submit the PR through that
19:10
<Domenic>
rits: what step are you getting errors on? Can you paste a link to your repository with its branch?
19:11
<rits>
Domenic: i have forked the repo i am working on this https://github.com/Ritsyy/html-build and i created the branch Bug27672
19:12
<rits>
i am getting the error when i did the git push origin my_branch_name
19:12
<rits>
and the error is fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/whatwg/html.git/';: The requested URL returned error: 403
19:14
<Domenic>
rits: I see the problem. MikeSmith needs to finish up his thing that makes the process clearer :)
19:14
<Domenic>
rits: you need to actually fork the HTML spec repo instead of the build repo. At https://github.com/whatwg/html
19:15
<Domenic>
rits: after you do that, inside your local html folder, do the following: git remote remove origin; git remote add origin https://github.com/Ritsyy/html.git;
19:16
<rits>
Domenic: oh ok got it now, doing it, thanks :)
19:16
<Domenic>
rits: feel free to ping me if it gives you any more trouble. Things aren't quite as smooth as we would like them to be yet :)
19:19
<rits>
Domenic: yeah i will, thanks :D
19:35
<MikeSmith>
Domenic: sorry for the delay, will attempt to get it wrapped up by this time tomorrow at the latest
19:35
<Domenic>
MikeSmith: all good :)
19:50
<MikeSmith>
rits: thanks for being patient with our only semi-functional build setup; you're one of the first people to really come in try all this out from scratch, so you're a true pioneer and fwiw your efforts will have the benefit of helping us learn too so that we can make things easier for other future contributors, and get the docs updated, etc.
20:02
<rits>
MikeSmith: sorry was away from the keyboard, yeah its totally fine no problem at all, the irc response is very good which make the new contributors solve the errors, its great working in whatwg :). I would also love to work on the updations of the docs and other features also :)
20:13
<MikeSmith>
rits: super :) glad you're here
20:13
<rits>
MikeSmith: Domenic : My PR https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/238 , please review it when possible. Thanks
20:15
<rits>
MikeSmith: I am having fun working here. Nice to meet you :)
20:17
<Domenic>
yay \o/
20:19
<rits>
Domenic: :D yay, doing the changes :)
20:19
<Domenic>
rits: Oh! I forgot one thing. Let me comment on the bug...
20:20
<rits>
Domenic: okay,
20:21
<Domenic>
* on the PR
20:24
<rits>
Domenic: where i have to add the name for the acknowledgments
20:25
<Domenic>
rits: somewhere around line 118740 or so, depending on where you are in the alphabet
20:27
<rits>
Domenic: okey, cool!
20:36
<smaug____>
zcorpan: 8 incompatibilities ?
20:36
<smaug____>
what you mean with that?
20:36
<smaug____>
oh, I see
20:36
<zcorpan>
smaug____: "As far as I can tell the spec differs in the following ways from what " in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Dec/0264.html
20:37
<smaug____>
yeah, the spec was updated to something that no one implements
20:37
<smaug____>
and we on purpose didn't want to implement all the odd stuff the spec had before our implementation , IIRC
20:38
<zcorpan>
right the old stuff is not relevant
20:39
<zcorpan>
but blink now has an impl behind a flag of the current spec. i haven't checked how well it conforms (although i know it doesn't "limit to only known values" for .type). but it does support type=popup
20:40
<zcorpan>
smaug____: also if you have information not considered in https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/234 or if you think the proposal there is super-awesome, would be good to know :-)
20:41
<Domenic>
smaug____: also https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/237 !
20:46
<rits>
Domenic: while changing the commit message when i did this: git push --force Bug27672 , got this error http://pastebin.com/Gwmu70qj
20:46
<Domenic>
rits: just git push --force should work
20:47
<Domenic>
rits: you might want to do "git config --global push.default simple" as well
20:48
<rits>
Domenic: git push --force worked, actually i applied it before this "git config --global push.default simple", thanks
20:50
<jgraham>
I think push.default is simple as long as you have a modern git version
20:50
<Domenic>
rits: looks good! now just add yourself to acknowledgments and do the same thing
20:51
<jgraham>
(although it turns out that I don't have a modern git version by this standard; I should fix that)
20:51
<rits>
Domenic: yeah doing that,
20:52
<smaug____>
Domenic: I would need to reread the spec for 237. The spec was a mess at some point, and looks like it is still too complicated
20:53
<rits>
jgraham: the docs also needs to be updated, i actually didn't notice the error the push.default in was suggested there https://help.github.com/articles/changing-a-commit-message/
20:53
<Domenic>
smaug____: I tried to summarize what the spec contains in 237
20:55
<jgraham>
(fwliw I think that the right value for that config option is "upstream")
21:18
<rits>
Domenic: Should i write Added "My_Name" as Acknowledger in the final commit message?
21:19
<Domenic>
rits: no, best to just leave that out
21:19
<rits>
Domenic: okay
21:27
<rits>
Domenic: got this error while pushing the changes http://pastebin.com/5x35ACB5
21:27
<Domenic>
rits: You need to do git push --force
21:28
Domenic
is git push --force'ing on another spec PR right this minute in fact
21:29
<rits>
Domenic: oh great, but i used git push --force first time, its really helpful :D
21:29
<Domenic>
rits: just be sure never to do it on master :)
21:30
<Domenic>
rits: OK this is ready for me to merge! I'll do so now...
21:30
<rits>
Domenic: Hhah never ever, that would be my biggest mistake
21:30
<rits>
Domenic: Great :D \o/
21:37
<zcorpan>
rits: Domenic: thanks! now pls take a moment and make some changes to the READMEs so things are more obvious for the next contributor :-)
21:37
<Domenic>
The acknowledgments thing is the big missing bit
21:37
<Domenic>
Also the stumbling block with which repo to clone will be fixed soon
21:43
<rits>
zcorpan: your welcome :), Domenic : Thanks for the Acknowledgments actually it made the work more interesting for me :)
21:49
rits
is feeling great to meet you all, see you all tomorrow :)
23:05
<gsnedders>
I remember seeing some research into JS library CDN cache hit rates. Anyone able to dig up a link?
23:45
<MikeSmith>
gsnedders: not at httparchive?
23:47
<MikeSmith>
gsnedders: maybe? > http://www.fse.guru/2014/03/cdn-usage-and-javascript-library#toc_5
23:51
<MikeSmith>
gsnedders: http://trends.builtwith.com/cdn/jQuery-CDN