| 08:55 | <JakeA> | wanderview: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=567615 |
| 10:18 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: why this warning? |
| 10:18 | <zcorpan> | Warning: Element dl does not need a role attribute. |
| 10:18 | <zcorpan> | From line 4468, column 4; to line 4468, column 32 |
| 10:18 | <zcorpan> | </pre>↩ <dl class="note" role="note">↩ < |
| 10:21 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: also i seem to get a 504 Gateway Time-out from validator.nu and html5.validator.nu |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | hsivonen: validator.nu and html5.validator.nu trouble |
| 10:38 | <MikeSmith> | zcorpan: yeah that's warning for that case seems like a bug |
| 10:38 | <MikeSmith> | I think the ARIA in HTML spec actually says no role value is allowed on dl at all |
| 10:39 | MikeSmith | looks at validator sources |
| 12:32 | <ondras> | so |
| 12:32 | <ondras> | is there some authoritative statement regarding the extension presence in "import x from 'y{.js}'" ? |
| 12:33 | <ondras> | babel6 seems to encourage extension-less module names |
| 12:33 | <ondras> | babel5 supports both |
| 12:33 | <ondras> | and as time goes, I have heard people recommending both variants. |
| 12:40 | <hsivonen> | MikeSmith: fixed |
| 15:47 | <caitp> | ondras: have you looked at the loader repo? |
| 15:48 | <caitp> | haven't really been keeping up with it, but I expect the extension will be required |
| 15:50 | <caitp> | or rather, it won't add the ".js" for you |
| 17:13 | <JakeA> | annevk: if an API isn't available (private browsing, or missing dependencies), should the API be there but fail, or be absent? |
| 17:13 | <JakeA> | I vaguely recall a discussion about this |
| 18:17 | <Domenic> | ondras: since you are just using Babel's nonstandard version of modules you should do whatever babel says. It's not real ES6 anyway. |
| 18:50 | <jsbell> | Ms2ger: can I get a do-over on https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/6039 ? |
| 18:50 | <Ms2ger> | mtg |
| 18:50 | <jsbell> | np |
| 18:50 | <Ms2ger> | Also all of this week :) |
| 18:51 | <Ms2ger> | But will try to look later, thanks for the fix |
| 18:51 | <jsbell> | In unrelated news, for t in $ALL_THE_TOOLS { I hate $t } |
| 18:51 | <Ms2ger> | :D |
| 19:10 | <wanderview> | JakeA: thanks! |
| 19:12 | <annevk> | JakeA: not sure that is standardized |
| 19:13 | <annevk> | JakeA: absent seems safe when it does not work, but private browsing has its own considerations |
| 19:33 | <JakeA> | Cheers |
| 19:51 | <mkwst> | JakeA: Generally, we'd like private/incognito/whatever to look just like "real" mode. |
| 19:52 | <mkwst> | Practically, we fall down in a number of places, so Incognito is totally detectable. I see that as a bug, I just haven't really been able to convince folks who know how to fix things to agree with my prioritizations. :) |
| 19:53 | <JakeA> | mkwst: in this case we're trying to work out if we expose background sync if the version of play services isn't recent enough |
| 19:53 | <JakeA> | Either expose it and it rejects, or not expose it |
| 20:12 | <ondras> | caitp: what repo exactly? |
| 20:13 | <caitp> | https://github.com/whatwg/loader |
| 20:13 | <caitp> | although it looks like the "name resolution" bit still hasn't been figured out |
| 20:13 | <ondras> | caitp: thanks for the link, will have a look |
| 20:13 | <ondras> | would love to reply do Domenic, but he already left |
| 20:13 | <ondras> | will try again tomorrow. |
| 20:14 | <Domenic> | OR DID HE |
| 20:14 | <caitp> | he's around |
| 20:14 | <ondras> | MAGIC |
| 20:14 | <ondras> | why did my irssi fail to complete the nick |
| 20:14 | <ondras> | mystery. |
| 20:14 | <ondras> | Domenic: so please point me to the real ES6 way then |
| 20:15 | <ondras> | Domenic: I know how to do stuff with Babel; I am now more interested in what is the real deal going to be |
| 20:15 | <Domenic> | ondras: there is no defined way yet. That is why modules are not implemented anywhere. |
| 20:15 | <ondras> | right |
| 20:15 | <Domenic> | Babel just made something up so they could ship |
| 20:15 | <ondras> | Domenic: my point is that perhaps people are converging onto something? or still 50/50? |
| 20:15 | <caitp> | Domenic: it's probably likely that the behaviour will be similar to other resources loaded by the browser |
| 20:16 | <Domenic> | ondras: I would bet with 80% odds on the .js being required, as caitp says. But there's a substantial amount of uncertainty still. |
| 20:16 | <ondras> | Domenic: okay, thanks. Precisely the opinion I was looking for. |
| 20:16 | <ondras> | (I submitted this as babel6 bug not long ago, no reply so far...) |
| 20:17 | <Domenic> | I prefer not to use things that are unspecified though |
| 20:17 | <caitp> | iirc the confusing bit was WRT relative-to-base vs relative-to-module-uri |
| 20:17 | <caitp> | or something like that |
| 20:17 | <Domenic> | vs. relative-to-module-id |
| 22:04 | <smaug____> | mounir: random question came to my mind: is blink going to support BroadcastChannel any time soon? |
| 22:27 | <Mek> | smaug____: I don't think anybody is actively working on it, but according to https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/4585496197988352 jsbell might be able to give a more concrete answer |
| 23:05 | <jsbell> | smaug____: No concrete answer for me, though I'd love to see it done. Just not a high priority |
| 23:43 | <nikkibee> | I'm working on implementing more of the Fetch standard for Servo, and in talking with a previous developer on that, we discovered the Fetch standard had updated since they last worked with it |
| 23:44 | <nikkibee> | how often can I expect the Fetch standard to update with new details? is there like a general completeness rating for it? |
| 23:45 | <nikkibee> | I'd like knowing more about the development of it, which isn't really apparent from glancing at like git commits |