| 03:51 | <MikeSmith> | Yeah I guess we should just make it always by credit default print out that file |
| 03:54 | <MikeSmith> | But if the "quiet" option is set, only print the file out if there are errors |
| 08:29 | <zcorpan> | can FrozenArray<DOMString> be used for a live array? |
| 08:41 | <MikeSmith> | > zcorpan: MikeSmith: ok. but can it print the content of that file even on success? |
| 08:41 | <MikeSmith> | Yeah I guess we should just make it always by credit default print out that file |
| 08:41 | <MikeSmith> | But if the "quiet" option is set, only print the file out if there are errors |
| 08:42 | <MikeSmith> | zcorpan: also a question for you: do you care much whether wattsi emits its messages to stdout or stderr |
| 08:43 | <MikeSmith> | it seems to me that it rightly should be emitting all its messages to stderr |
| 08:43 | <MikeSmith> | it seems like you were initially surprised to see that it was sending them to stdout |
| 08:43 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: sounds good. i tried implementing that this morning but didn't get the logic right :-) |
| 08:43 | <MikeSmith> | ok I'll try it today |
| 08:43 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: i don't really care about stderr vs stdout |
| 08:43 | <MikeSmith> | ah ok |
| 08:44 | <MikeSmith> | I guess I won't bother changing it then |
| 08:44 | <MikeSmith> | zcorpan: but do you think it's important that wattsi exit non-zero if there are errors? |
| 08:45 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: i only care about seeing the errors :-) |
| 08:45 | <MikeSmith> | ok fair enough |
| 08:46 | <MikeSmith> | but the if it doesn't exit non-zero for the error case it makes it pretty hard to do any sane CI automation for it |
| 08:47 | <zcorpan> | true |
| 08:47 | <MikeSmith> | ok |
| 08:47 | <MikeSmith> | anyway right now I'll deal with getting the error emitted reliably by the html-build build script |
| 08:48 | <zcorpan> | thx |
| 08:51 | <MikeSmith> | and sorry for the headaches you've had needing to deal with the build hassles. I had wanted to get this stuff working reliably back in September (which would have been before you were back full-time I think) but life got in the way I and I really haven't touched any of this for more than 2 months until I got to your PRs yesterday along with the PR I'd had left hanging open since the end of September |
| 08:51 | <MikeSmith> | anyway, will get it all righted |
| 08:56 | <zcorpan> | no worries, html-build has worked fine for me, really |
| 08:57 | <zcorpan> | my wattsi build problems were apple's fault |
| 09:08 | <zcorpan> | Domenic: can we adopt the "snapshot as of this commit" thing in streams for all our specs? (then we can also make "file an issue" link use the snapshot URL, and maybe clicking a <dfn> can include a stable link) |
| 09:35 | <zcorpan> | nice https://drafts.csswg.org/indexes/#properties |
| 10:04 | <MikeSmith> | very cool |
| 10:24 | <annevk> | zcorpan: an Array is not live |
| 10:28 | <MikeSmith> | FYI for folks who care about e-mail archives |
| 10:28 | <MikeSmith> | https://github.com/w3c/mailing-list-archives |
| 10:28 | <MikeSmith> | https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2015OctDec/0089.html |
| 10:28 | <Ms2ger> | Hey, anyone who knows things about canvas2d around? |
| 10:28 | <MikeSmith> | "We are planning to modernize the markup and style of our mailinglist archives, to improve readability and usability and todisplay better on a wider variety of devices." |
| 10:29 | <MikeSmith> | Ms2ger: Philip` maybe |
| 10:29 | <Ms2ger> | Ha |
| 10:54 | <annevk> | Can anyone just host files in your repository? https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/57#issuecomment-165652739 |
| 11:19 | <annevk> | (reported to GitHub) |
| 14:55 | <smaug____> | hayato: dglazkov: does blink already have deprecation warnings for the old shadow dom API? |
| 15:09 | <rits> | i am compiling watttsi, but during the build getting this error http://pastebin.com/fFKKAqdb |
| 15:12 | <gsnedders> | rits: what version of fps do you have? |
| 15:12 | <gsnedders> | *fpc |
| 15:13 | <gsnedders> | because that looks like it's confused between 3.0.0 and 2.6.2 for some reason? |
| 15:13 | <rits> | gsnedders: 3.0.0 |
| 15:14 | <rits> | gsnedders: yes, the error seems relate to that but i have installed 3.0.0 |
| 15:19 | <gsnedders> | rits: can you try pastebinning bash -x ./build.sh (or whatver shell) |
| 15:20 | <rits> | gsnedders: yes |
| 15:20 | gsnedders | doesn't really know /that/ much about fpc |
| 15:21 | <rits> | gsnedders: this one is a ./build.sh result only http://pastebin.com/fFKKAqdb |
| 15:22 | <rits> | me too, there is not much resource on the internet about fpc errors too |
| 15:24 | <gsnedders> | As far as I can see, there's nothing passing in any -FM anywhere, so it's coming from within fpc… :\ |
| 15:24 | <gsnedders> | I presume there's some FreePascal IRC channel, maybe it'd be worthwhile asking there? |
| 15:25 | <gsnedders> | Unless MikeSmith can help? (He runs the AWS instance hosting it I think?) |
| 15:27 | <rits> | gsnedders: yes, i will try to asking on any FreePascal channel, otherwise will comment there on the issue, might be whenever they are around, will solve it then |
| 15:31 | <ondras> | hmh |
| 15:31 | <ondras> | flexbox + overflow |
| 15:31 | <ondras> | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14962468/flexbox-and-vertical-scroll-in-a-full-height-app-using-newer-flexbox-api |
| 15:31 | <ondras> | can someone please explain *why* this works? |
| 15:32 | <ondras> | (i.e. setting arbitrary height on a "flex:1 1 auto" element) |
| 15:32 | <Domenic> | Fascinating, bfcache in blink? https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=511340 |
| 15:33 | <Domenic> | botie: tell zcorpan that generalizing stream's snapshot system has been a TODO of mine for a while, and I would welcome some help... |
| 15:33 | <botie> | will do |
| 15:37 | <gsnedders> | rits: let us know what the solution is! |
| 16:20 | <rits> | gsnedders: was afk, surely will tell the solution, tried two three but didn't worked, asking on their irc now :) |
| 17:50 | <dglazkov> | smaug____: not yet |
| 18:00 | <smaug____> | dglazkov: would be perhaps good, so that web devs don't start to rely more and more on deprecated API |
| 18:03 | <botie> | zcorpan, at 2015-12-18 15:33 UTC, Domenic said: generalizing stream's snapshot system has been a TODO of mine for a while, and I would welcome some help... |
| 19:13 | <TabAtkins> | annevk: I... guess? I'd just delete the thread. |
| 19:29 | <smaug____> | hmm, 491 tabs. time to close some of them |
| 19:32 | <TabAtkins> | ondras: That's an intentional and encouraged use of flexbox. The flex container is set to the full height of the page, and the article is the only part that can grow or shrink. |
| 23:11 | <MikeSmith> | rits: to compile wattsi, one thing is you need to make sure you're using the development version, not any of the release versions |
| 23:12 | <MikeSmith> | it must be the version from ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/beta/3.0.0-rc1/ |
| 23:13 | <MikeSmith> | I mean the fpc version |
| 23:13 | <MikeSmith> | and you need to make sure you don't have any other existing version of fpc already installed on your system |
| 23:15 | <gsnedders> | MikeSmith: like, fpc 3.0.0 (the released version) doesn't work? :( |
| 23:17 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: I don't know; have never tested it but Hixie has told me as recently as September that it needs to be the version from ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/beta/3.0.0-rc1/ |
| 23:17 | <MikeSmith> | it may be that 3.0.0 got released in the mean time works, I dunno |
| 23:18 | <MikeSmith> | but ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/beta/3.0.0-rc1/ is what we're all using |
| 23:24 | <MikeSmith> | rits: http://www.lazarusforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8344 has discussion of the same error |
| 23:24 | <MikeSmith> | (in German) |
| 23:25 | <MikeSmith> | but no resolution |
| 23:26 | <MikeSmith> | http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/2015-February/090281.html seems to suggest it's caused by the build picking up the wrong ppcx64 binary |
| 23:27 | <MikeSmith> | the fpc source distribution has its own ppcx64 binary that must be used instead, and the http://pastebin.com/fFKKAqdb error message indicates it's not using it |
| 23:27 | <MikeSmith> | Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode |