04:11
<Domenic>
annevk: hayato: what is the criteria for an event being scoped or not? It seems like we are trying to make everything scoped these days?
04:12
<hayato>
I think we have judged case by case so far.
04:25
<Domenic>
I guess I am wondering if there will ever be a case when you say "this should not be scoped"
04:40
<smaug____>
mousemove
04:45
<smaug____>
I've rarely seen as horrible API as what blink filesystem API is :/
05:16
<annevk>
TabAtkins: that is how I think about explainers too
05:17
<annevk>
Domenic: mouse and pointer events in general make sense to leak
05:18
<annevk>
Domenic: focus too
05:18
<annevk>
Domenic: events specific to the implementation of a component make less if no sense
05:18
<annevk>
Domenic: so yeah, case-by-case
07:16
<annevk>
hayato: it seems deepPath() excludes non-nodes?
07:16
<annevk>
hayato: from a cursory reading of https://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/shadow/#widl-Event-deepPath-sequence-EventTarget anyway
07:17
<annevk>
hayato: if that's the case, I think that's wrong, deepPath() should work for IndexedDB
07:18
<hayato>
My intention is includes non-nodes.
07:18
<hayato>
Let me check
07:18
<annevk>
Okay
07:19
<annevk>
Maybe 4.3 handles it
07:20
<hayato>
Yeah, right.
07:21
<annevk>
hayato: thank you
07:39
<zcorpan>
the <!--TOPIC:foo--> comments are not used for anything, are they+
07:39
<annevk>
nope
07:40
<annevk>
I sometimes remove one if it's near something I change
12:44
<annevk>
smaug____: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/1127 is waiting for input from you
12:47
<smaug____>
annevk: sorry, been busy with reviews and random stuff here in Taipei
12:50
<annevk>
fair, I guess there's no rush for that one or others
12:50
<annevk>
smaug____: take your time there and pick up all the standards nonsense sometime after you're back
12:50
<smaug____>
I'll be back next week
12:51
<smaug____>
in Finland
12:51
<annevk>
I was hoping that was the case
12:52
<smaug____>
I wish github will manage to tell me where all my nick has been mentioned recently
12:54
<nox>
smaug____: https://github.com/issues/mentioned, kind of.
12:54
<smaug____>
yup, got link to that yesterday
12:55
<nox>
You can also remove "is:issue" from the search box.
12:55
smaug____
still thinks github should have something similar to needinfo
12:55
<nox>
That will show issues and PRs.
14:32
<JonathanNeal>
Have there been suggestions for a better way to hide content visually while preserving it for screen readers? Right now, the best method tends to involve `clip: rect(0, 0, 0, 0); position: absolute;`. Are there other suggested syntaxes (for the future), like `visibility: visually-hidden` or something?
14:34
MikeSmith
smaug____ as a workaround for needinfo, the thing that people do is to assign the issue the person you need info from
14:36
<Ms2ger>
With the issue that github doesn't let you assign just anybody
14:37
<annevk>
And you might need info from several folks
14:37
<annevk>
I agree that needsinfo is quite a useful Bugzilla invention that should be ported
14:40
<MikeSmith>
yes
14:46
<miketaylr>
smaug____: we were thinking of abusing labels in the webcompat/web-bugs repo as a proxy for needinfo
14:47
<miketaylr>
(but that doesn't nag you via email every day, so you still gotta remember to check all issues for a needinfo_miketaylr label, or similar)
14:56
<smaug____>
I think it is fine to check requested needinfos
14:56
<smaug____>
that is what I do with bugzilla requests too
18:26
<TabAtkins>
annevk: Just checking - those 8 linking errors in DOM (all to various *Event interfaces) are intentional, right?
18:34
<Domenic>
TabAtkins: yeah they are
18:50
<JonathanNeal>
Where might I find the blink user agent stylesheet? I would think this one only applies to Safari now? http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Source/WebCore/css/html.css
18:56
<Domenic>
In the Blink source code, not the Safari source code ;)
18:57
<Domenic>
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#chromium/src/third_party/WebKit/Source/core/css/html.css
19:01
<JonathanNeal>
Thanks, Domenic. It is actually quite hard to find them these days via web search.
19:04
<JonathanNeal>
Does Edge put theirs out?
19:06
<JonathanNeal>
And for Firefox, I keep finding old links. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/html.css
19:08
<JonathanNeal>
Similarly. All the links I find seem out of date. https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/master/layout/style/html.css
19:14
<Domenic>
Why do you think the mozilla-central one is out of date?
19:14
<Domenic>
oh, because it 404s
19:15
<Domenic>
but you can just search for html.css in mozilla-central and find https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/res/html.css
19:21
<JonathanNeal>
Domenic: Honest, I searched. I couldn’t find it. Thanks! Do you know if Edge makes theirs available?
19:21
<Domenic>
JonathanNeal: Edge is not open source, so no, they do not.
19:57
<Grumpy>
I'm attempting to create a notification with the NotificationAPI (With javascript on a php platform, for desktop), but my icon isn't showing up. Does it have to be a specific size?