08:25
<JakeA>
annevk: samesite cookies in "lax" most stops HEIST today right? Aside from the intranet case of course
08:33
<annevk>
JakeA: you mean if a site only used samesite cookies?
08:33
<annevk>
JakeA: and we imagine all browsers support them?
08:35
<JakeA>
annevk: yes, but that's true for From-Origin too. Both browsers and sites need to add it
08:35
<annevk>
JakeA: the upside with From-Origin is that you don't have to reinvent login
08:36
<annevk>
JakeA: migrating all your cookie usage to new patterns (that have usability downsides) seems much harder than adding a flag
08:36
<annevk>
JakeA: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-cookie-same-site is the latest draft btw
08:36
<annevk>
not 07
08:38
<JakeA>
annevk: fair. Samesite's lax option should keep login simple, but agree it's more effort than a flag
08:39
<JakeA>
Cheers, I was getting a hanging request trying to follow that link earlier.
08:40
<annevk>
mkwst: what is the repo for same-site?
08:40
<annevk>
mkwst: https://github.com/mikewest/internetdrafts doesn't seem to be it
08:41
<annevk>
JakeA: yeah, I think tools.ietf.org has issues
08:41
<annevk>
I had the same anyway
08:47
<mkwst>
annevk: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions
08:50
<annevk>
mkwst: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/220
08:51
<annevk>
mkwst: also, more Origin Policy use cases: https://github.com/w3c/resource-timing/issues/64#issuecomment-238170658 \o
08:51
<annevk>
/
08:53
<mkwst>
annevk: I don't think the origin manifest thing is hurting for use cases. :)
12:09
<Ms2ger>
background-color: rgb(0 128 0)
12:09
<Ms2ger>
Wat
12:24
<ondras>
so, when using html5 dragdrop APIs, is it somehow possible to modify the appearance of the DOM element being dragged (or, rather, its semi-transparent clone)?
14:41
<annevk>
smaug____: FWIW, zcorpan isn't back until tomorrow or day after
14:42
<smaug____>
k
14:44
<smaug____>
annevk: FWIW, I think that change is rather risky but we'll see
14:44
<smaug____>
it would be nice to get it fixed though
15:12
<smaug____>
annevk: hmm, so https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/forms.html#dom-textarea/input-setrangetext . how should that work in case selectionStart and selectionEnd return null?
15:13
<smaug____>
I guess that is a question to zcorpan
15:13
<smaug____>
oh, nm
15:14
<smaug____>
it is defined in totally different place that the method throws
16:13
<annevk>
smaug____: seems like something we should fix
16:13
<annevk>
Action at a distance is bad
16:14
<jgraham>
It's Quantum!
16:14
<jgraham>
Quantum is good, right?
16:23
<nox>
Quantum Leap
23:00
<tobie>
TabAtkins: would love your thoughts on https://github.com/tobie/webidl/issues/8