| 08:03 | <annevk> | Ms2ger: littledan: I'd like to ask about BigInt (again). Do we have implementer interest for the web platform parts? Are they blocked on IDL changing? |
| 08:08 | <annevk> | Oh, it also seems that IDB doesn't need IDL support to add them. Not sure why that's stalled then. |
| 09:14 | <littledan> | annevk: I'm not aware of anything blocked on it right now. However, a member of the TAG pinged us asking if this could land to unblock future things. |
| 09:16 | <annevk> | littledan: any idea what future thing that might be? Perhaps get them to comment on the PR directly |
| 09:16 | <littledan> | the suggested support for BigInt keys in IDB is stalled because there weren't enough concrete use cases documenting. A few web developers saying "we want this" isn't quite concrete enough to justify the change, it was determined. |
| 09:18 | <littledan> | OK, will do |
| 10:56 | <mathiasbynens> | what was that DOM API that accepts like 9 parameters of which 5 are booleans? |
| 10:57 | <annevk> | mathiasbynens: could be that something in WebGL? Or maybe 2D? |
| 10:58 | <annevk> | 2D seems to be mostly lots of numbers |
| 10:59 | <annevk> | > void ellipse(unrestricted double x, unrestricted double y, unrestricted double radiusX, unrestricted double radiusY, unrestricted double rotation, unrestricted double startAngle, unrestricted double endAngle, optional boolean anticlockwise = false); (has 8, but only one boolean) |
| 11:00 | <mathiasbynens> | oh wow, didn't even know about that one |
| 11:05 | <Ms2ger> | I don't see anything in wpt/interfaces |
| 11:12 | <MikeSmith> | Ms2ger: thanks again the heads-up about that domcore (non)redirect. Lemme know if you come across any other dom or html TR URLs that aren’t redirecting yet. At this point the only html and dom TR URLs that aren’t intentionally redirects yet are the ones with dates in them |
| 11:13 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: btw, I've attempted an IANA update for application/x-www-form-urlencoded so someone at the W3C side might be receiving email |
| 11:13 | <Ms2ger> | MikeSmith, sounds good - I was actually looking for a dated version |
| 11:13 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: now they might try to contact Robin Berjon's email address which will bounce so... |
| 11:13 | <Ms2ger> | Not sure how to find those now, actually, now that you fixed that redirect |
| 11:13 | <annevk> | At least, I suspect it'll bounce, I don't really know W3C policies |
| 11:14 | <MikeSmith> | Ms2ger: yeah hopefully you don’t find those dated ones unless you already know about them — that is the intent at least |
| 11:14 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: yeah I saw a related github notification about that IANA update |
| 11:15 | <MikeSmith> | the whole IANA media-type registration process is a relic |
| 11:16 | <MikeSmith> | those messages basically go to one person’s e-mail inbox, not publicly archived, no record |
| 11:19 | <MikeSmith> | mathiasbynens: speaking of media types, dunno if you saw but I updated https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Basics_of_HTTP/MIME_types/Common_types and in the body of the article itself, I added links to the IETF doc and the relevant parts of the HTML spec |
| 11:21 | <mathiasbynens> | MikeSmith: I did see, thank you :) |
| 11:21 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: I complained about the IANA media-type registration process and the person who is responsible for it (and has always been) told me it’s the way it is bay design — specifically it’s designed to now have any public record |
| 11:22 | <annevk> | yeah it's bad |
| 11:22 | <annevk> | there's a public issue number now at least, but it's still bad |
| 11:22 | <annevk> | it could just be PRs |
| 12:50 | <annevk> | littledan: FWIW, I think you're right that we should probably just support BigInt in IDL, even if there are no non-any consumers, but it feels a little weird |
| 13:31 | <zcorpan> | Have we discussed changing branch name from "master" to something else like "main" (to get away from possibly slavery-origin terminology, though I don't know if it actually is in this case)? |
| 13:49 | <annevk> | zcorpan: it's probably worth discussing again now that there's better support for doing so; I kinda wish this was dealt with upstream in Git itself though as now you get everyone making different decisions |
| 13:49 | <annevk> | zcorpan: https://github.com/desktop/desktop/issues/6478 has some precedent |
| 13:49 | <annevk> | I guess there's also a fair number of places that use gh-pages |
| 14:12 | <littledan> | annevk: Yeah, I can understand that. I think the biggest reason to do it is because other people who might write specs needing BigInt might not know that they're supposed to actually ask for a WebIDL change, and could work around it instead |
| 14:12 | <littledan> | so, putting it in the WebIDL spec correctly expresses the intent that it's supported, if anyone needs it |
| 14:24 | <annevk> | you'd hope implementers hold those people accountable, but on bad days that might be expecting a bit much |
| 14:27 | <littledan> | yeah, the TAG also tries to hold those people accountable; it sounds like they see this as a structural thing that might reduce everyone's load here. |
| 14:37 | <Domenic> | mathiasbynens: annevk: it's gotta be one of the init*Event methods. PRobably in UI events... |
| 14:38 | <Domenic> | mathiasbynens: annevk: https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#idl-interface-MouseEvent-initializers |
| 14:38 | <Ms2ger> | 6 booleans, that counts |
| 14:38 | <mathiasbynens> | Domenic: that's the one! |
| 14:39 | <Ms2ger> | mathiasbynens, you were insufficiently pessimistic, though :) |
| 14:40 | <Ms2ger> | Oh, and I didn't find it in wpt because the ui events spec is shit |
| 14:40 | <Domenic> | Indeed |
| 14:40 | <mathiasbynens> | Ms2ger: after all these years in #whatwg, I still haven't learned |