| 06:06 | <annevk> | Was it ever discussed to add a then method to IDBRequest? |
| 13:53 | <substan[e> | sup |
| 13:55 | annevk | finds https://github.com/inexorabletash/indexeddb-promises/issues/7 |
| 13:55 | <substan[e> | how are you folks |
| 13:55 | <substan[e> | im looking at xhr.spec.whatwg.org - reading abuot using xmlHTTPreq |
| 13:55 | <substan[e> | isnt this all redone, better, in jquery??? |
| 13:57 | <annevk> | substan[e: how do you think jQuery works? |
| 13:57 | <substan[e> | I know its based off xmlhttpreq |
| 13:57 | <substan[e> | isnt it a 'front end' to doing it the old way? |
| 13:57 | substan[e | is kinda new to this. sorry |
| 13:57 | <substan[e> | didnt jq summarizse alot of work with this stuff with like gets() puts() ??? |
| 13:57 | <annevk> | Although I suppose jQuery could use fetch() these days, I don't really know |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | How do you code socket stuff |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | do you do it using xmlHTTPreq? |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | or with jq? |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | (my friend told me forget about xmlhttpreq and only learn jq) |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | is that wrong? |
| 13:58 | <annevk> | substan[e: what do you want to learn? |
| 13:58 | <substan[e> | basically. |
| 13:59 | <substan[e> | im learning nodeJS on the side. but i want to learn client side JS first |
| 13:59 | <substan[e> | . i want ot understand how to open a socket for reading or a RESTful API call or something |
| 13:59 | <substan[e> | to another one of my servers |
| 13:59 | <substan[e> | .. i understand XML or json is how i would send/format the data. right? |
| 14:00 | <annevk> | substan[e: you could learn jQuery for that I suppose, but you might as well start with https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Fetch_API/Using_Fetch and avoid a dependency on a library |
| 14:00 | <substan[e> | really? |
| 14:01 | <substan[e> | .. i totally will. i want to understand how its workin fully, before using something that makes it work w/o knowin whats happening rihgt? |
| 14:02 | <Domenic> | annevk: for "_bc_'s WindowProxy's [[Window]] value", do you prefer "active window", "active `Window`", "current window", or "current `Window`"? Or other? |
| 14:02 | <substan[e> | annevk: you seem like you know whats up. i wrote my page https://tranceattic.com in vim/notepad++ with jquery.. if you let it load and inspect element i cant figure out where or how to fix these console errors |
| 14:03 | <substan[e> | there is only like 2 main ones.. Uncaught Type error cant acces prop "defaults" |
| 14:03 | <substan[e> | but to the right . its not listing a file i am fam. with it says : line 1 > scriptElement |
| 14:03 | <substan[e> | .. i have a feeling this has to do with the ordering of loading my JQ/BS js / css scripts. |
| 14:03 | <annevk> | Domenic: I suppose active window, though I'm not sure why active document isn't enough |
| 14:05 | <annevk> | substan[e: I recommend using StackOverflow or some IRC equivalent |
| 14:06 | <substan[e> | kk will do. im readin that doc now. i appreciate it |
| 14:06 | <substan[e> | mind if i idle here? |
| 14:06 | <annevk> | subz: not at all |
| 14:07 | <subz> | thx.. id like to actaully hang in an irc channel where people discuss code [and the topic of the channel[ |
| 14:07 | <subz> | and not like efnet. where everychannel is #polotics or #whatihadforbreakfast ;p |
| 14:08 | <subz> | annevk: are you into any nodeJS? |
| 14:20 | <andreubotella> | annevk: So in encoding#215 it was bugging me a bit that token queues were defined as simple data structures with no reference to I/O, and I think I've come up with a simple-ish way to make the definition reflect reality |
| 14:21 | <annevk> | andreubotella: that sounds interesting |
| 14:22 | <andreubotella> | annevk: Have each token in a token queue be one of "immediate" or "blocking", specifying that reading blocking tokens might block, and say something like "all tokens created by this spec are immediate, but blocking tokens can be created through implementation-defined ways" |
| 14:22 | <andreubotella> | And now we can define "wait" (as in BOM sniff) |
| 14:23 | <annevk> | andreubotella: and read would also have to wait? |
| 14:23 | <andreubotella> | there's a comment in the source saying that read would block, and to blame SimonSapin if that was a problem |
| 14:24 | <annevk> | andreubotella: heh, that was written a long time ago, but other than that HTML issue that you largely solved it hasn't really come up I think |
| 14:25 | <annevk> | so maybe it was not a problem |
| 14:26 | <andreubotella> | I don't think there are any cases where implementations can't make read async |
| 14:26 | <SimonSapin> | andreubotella: source for what? |
| 14:26 | <annevk> | andreubotella: but yeah, it might make sense for the queue to return "nothing available" and "end-of-stream" as distinct in certain cases |
| 14:26 | <andreubotella> | SimonSapin: the encoding spec |
| 14:27 | <andreubotella> | https://github.com/whatwg/encoding/blob/master/encoding.bs#L110 |
| 14:27 | <annevk> | I suspect this was written when we shared an open office space SimonSapin, git blame can prolly verify |
| 14:27 | <SimonSapin> | I have no memory of this ^^' |
| 14:28 | <annevk> | Seems it was committed six years ago and 3 years ago I changed curse to blame :p |
| 14:28 | <SimonSapin> | haha |
| 14:29 | <annevk> | Hmm, PR Preview is not picking up changes |
| 14:29 | <SimonSapin> | Yeah March 2014 is when we were in the same office I think |
| 14:31 | <andreubotella> | in any case, I'm gonna have to take a good look at every time that read is called just in case |
| 14:51 | <subz> | its great to see acitivty in an irc channel ;p |
| 14:51 | <subz> | (efnet = ded) |
| 15:04 | <andreubotella> | subz: this channel isn't quite dead, but usually there isn't a lot of activity, especially on the weekends and European late nights and mornings |
| 16:51 | <annevk> | tobie: if you're around, https://github.com/whatwg/url/pull/518 is not getting updated by PR Preview and I've noticed this in several PRs now; we have switched to GitHub Actions but that's not something that PR Preview should be concerned with, right? |