| 05:42 | <MikeSmith> | only now noticing that Matrix generates and depends on invalid URLs like https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#mdn:mozilla.org (that have another # in the fragment part) |
| 09:26 | <MikeSmith> | folks here planning to attend any particular TPAC meetings today? Or dropping in on any? |
| 09:27 | <MikeSmith> | anything look especially interesting today on any agendas? |
| 09:28 | <MikeSmith> | I guess I will be lurking ing the Service Workers and Web Performance meetings anyway |
| 09:28 | <MikeSmith> | ah wait, no Service Workers today; just Web Performance |
| 10:29 | <annevk> | yoav: do you recall where that thread was with Artur Janc et al about CORP, CORS, and metadata? |
| 10:29 | <annevk> | Oh maybe it was via email |
| 10:30 | <annevk> | yoav: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2020Jul/thread.html#msg5 |
| 10:30 | <yoav> | indeed https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2020Jul/0005.html |
| 10:33 | <annevk> | yoav: I guess for the thing later today https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2020Jul/0012.html captures my feelings pretty well, as well as https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2020Jul/0013.html (did you invite Camille?) |
| 10:33 | <yoav> | yup |
| 10:36 | <yoav> | From my perspective, we don't have to solve metadata (beyond size) today, as no RT feature exposes it |
| 10:37 | <yoav> | there are feature requests that would need that resolution, but that's less urgent than what's already shipping |
| 10:39 | <annevk> | I think we should be careful with setting developer expectations though |
| 10:40 | <annevk> | Spectre-only yesterday, sizing today, and all metadata tomorrow would not be a good look |
| 12:50 | <zcorpan> | Domenic: annevk: how do i address "using a method of iteration which does not trigger developer-modifiable array accessors or iteration hooks"? https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/urls-and-fetching.html#start-intersection-observing-a-lazy-loading-element |
| 12:51 | <annevk> | zcorpan: with a low-level primitive? |
| 12:51 | <zcorpan> | annevk: any spec language that doesn't need an "XXX" wrapper |
| 12:52 | <annevk> | zcorpan: my question was somewhat rhetorical |
| 12:53 | <zcorpan> | ok :) |
| 12:53 | <annevk> | zcorpan: that is, we need a non-JavaScript hook into intersection observer that the intersection observer API builds on and we can too |
| 12:55 | <zcorpan> | annevk: ok so the issue I filed on intersectionobserver was closed by https://github.com/w3c/IntersectionObserver/pull/449 , but doesn't address at least .isIntersecting , and it seems also we need a way to enumerate entries with Infra Standard language |
| 12:57 | <annevk> | "The {{IntersectionObserver/thresholds}} attribute getter will return" |
| 12:57 | <annevk> | That leads me to think they didn't really address your issue 🙂 |
| 12:57 | <annevk> | If they did, there would be internal slots and such to poke at |
| 12:58 | <annevk> | (That quote out of context is actually confusing. The problem is that the quote appears in the constructor steps.) |
| 12:58 | <zcorpan> | annevk: yeah... https://w3c.github.io/IntersectionObserver/#initialize-new-intersection-observer |
| 13:11 | <andreubotella> | annevk: that brain fart was embarrassing |
| 13:27 | <zcorpan> | https://github.com/w3c/IntersectionObserver/issues/464 |
| 14:39 | <annevk> | andreubotella: it isn't really, I had similar thoughts when attempting to address this |
| 20:59 | <andreubotella> | > (Registration for public breakouts closed on October 22.) |
| 21:00 | <andreubotella> | it doesn't list a timezone though |
| 21:00 | <andreubotella> | is it too late? |
| 21:05 | <zcorpan> | andreubotella: send an email to dom at w3.org and ask |
| 21:07 | <andreubotella> | zcorpan: I'll try that |