| 16:24 | <Domenic> | annevk: I sent out an internal call for someone on the implementation side to take point and coordinate on cleaning up embed/object/plugins. We already have a thread on general Flash cleanup so I hope someone is interested in carrying it further and actually making changes to embed/object to achieve interop. |
| 16:25 | <annevk> | Domenic: sounds good, happy to work with whoever volunteers; I have some ideas 🙂 |
| 16:27 | <annevk> | I wish it was part of disabling Flash as getting people to take initiative now is undoubtedly harder, but alas |
| 16:40 | <Domenic> | I want to update https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/isSecureContext to point to HTML but the edit button has disappeared on MDN I guess |
| 16:47 | <gsnedders> | Domenic: the "Found a problem with this page? |
| 16:47 | <gsnedders> | Domenic: " section links to the source on GitHub? |
| 16:47 | <Domenic> | Oh, I see, I was able to find that after Ctrl+Fing... but it was not in my line of sight |
| 16:49 | <gsnedders> | I mean I'd argue that's a sensible thing to file a bug for :) |
| 16:49 | <Domenic> | Filed https://github.com/mdn/content/issues/1192 instead of doing a PR... seems easier. |
| 18:42 | <Domenic> | annevk: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1163588 for PDF + click events... you may want to subscribe, or maybe we should open a spec-side issue. I guess it's a UI events issue technically? |
| 18:47 | <annevk> | Domenic: yeah I guess, though HTML should prolly define PDF documents |
| 18:47 | <Domenic> | Yeah |
| 18:48 | <annevk> | I think we need to accept that PDF is a thing that’ll stick around and define the observable aspects. Prolly don’t wanna go into the format though |
| 18:58 | <Domenic> | I wonder how much we will gain from making it PDF-specific vs. defining some much smaller version of "plugins" with more rules. (E.g.: content type must match, <param> does nothing, clearly-defined interaction with sandbox, etc.) |
| 18:58 | <Domenic> | PDF-specific seems like the right place to start though |
| 19:02 | <andreubotella> | is there any difference, though, between a PDF in an object and, say, a network error in an iframe? |
| 19:02 | <andreubotella> | both are presumably resources "without a Document" |
| 19:03 | <Domenic> | Well, object and iframe are needlessly different in lots of ways |
| 19:03 | <Domenic> | But indeed in terms of what comes out of the navigation algorithm I think they're very similar |
| 19:04 | <Domenic> | Some discussion of observability at https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/27129 |
| 19:04 | <Domenic> | Also I don't remember what the latest is on error events on network errors |
| 19:04 | <Domenic> | Oh right fallback content, as Anne mentioned in that thread, is probably the biggest answer to your question, andreubotella |
| 19:05 | <andreubotella> | I'll take a look |
| 19:06 | <andreubotella> | annevk: on another note, how big of a faux pas would it be to open a new PR to tackle the same issue as https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/3276? |
| 19:07 | <andreubotella> | since the OP seems to be AWOL for years and the PR needs updating other than the merge conflicts |
| 19:49 | <annevk> | andreubotella: totally fine |
| 19:50 | <andreubotella> | ok |
| 19:51 | <andreubotella> | I figured it'd be better to raise one single Firefox issue for both that PR and https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6247 |
| 20:31 | <smaug____> | Is there a spec term for the about:blank which is created synchronously? |
| 20:34 | <Domenic> | "initial about:blank" |
| 20:45 | <smaug____> | aha, thanks |