| 00:13 | <jschoi> | * I’m confused. Everything I just said was trying to explain how the pipe operator would incentivize using more plain functions and less prototype methods, by at least some amount. |
| 00:21 | <jschoi> | …Whoops, I just had to delete a confused comment I had made a minute ago. Matrix Element just displayed a message from Sunday to me right below my previous response, which made me think that we were going in circles. Turns out a Matrix or Element bug was just displaying the messages in this thread out of order temporarily… |
| 00:56 | <Richard Gibson> | to be honest, I was only thinking about a consumption-oriented bundle, but you're right. I think this detail will hinder export-side adoption, because it's basically asking library authors to abandon lots of ergonomic conveniences (extends, private elements, etc.) |
| 02:50 | <Ashley Claymore> | Something like https://github.com/tc39/proposal-private-declarations will likely be needed to help on the producer side |
| 02:51 | <Ashley Claymore> | extends is maybe less of an issue as pipeline already means the consumer is bypassing any dynamic dispatch |
| 03:15 | <Richard Gibson> | but it still means manually propagating methods associated with the parent |
| 04:16 | <Ashley Claymore> | to achieve reliable DCE the connection between declaration and usage needs to be static. is there an alternative? |
| 14:22 | <Richard Gibson> |
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| 16:14 | <Ashley Claymore> | This is similar to CJS. Some CJS patterns were statically analysable - and in some tools more than others. ESM syntax was great for giving tools a standard to follow. |
| 16:16 | <Ashley Claymore> | the above could be re-written in so many different ways |
| 16:17 | <Ashley Claymore> |
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| 16:18 | <Ashley Claymore> | or
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| 16:59 | <Evan Winslow> | My first outreach attempt (Three.js): https://discourse.threejs.org/t/im-on-tc39-would-three-js-be-interested-in-tree-shakable-methods-syntax/90519 My takeaways:
Feel free to judge my attempt mercilessly so I can do better next time. Thx :) |
| 17:06 | <Ashley Claymore> | this is really good |
| 17:07 | <Ashley Claymore> | definitely some mis-information from others in there. But that's always the way on the internet. |