03:08
<Justin Ridgewell>
Ok, finally home
03:09
<Justin Ridgewell>
Reviewing, I think Slide 4 (Generators) slides needs to mention that we removed snapshotting behavior for spec generators
03:15
<Justin Ridgewell>
Oh, we should also mention that test262 is already done?
05:26
<Andreu Botella>
I would not say already done, I'd say it has comprehensive coverage or something like that
11:54
<littledan>
What is the difference? Comprehensive sounds great to me
11:56
<Andreu Botella>
I'd want more tests for actual context propagation, interaction between various language features that propagate the context, etc.
14:09
<Justin Ridgewell>
Updated to “comphrehensive”
14:20
<littledan>
I'd want more tests for actual context propagation, interaction between various language features that propagate the context, etc.
sounds like it's not yet comprehensive?
14:21
<Andreu Botella>
sounds like it's not yet comprehensive?
there's a lot that is covered, I'm not sure if it yet meets a bar where I'd be happy with merging
14:23
<littledan>
right, I understand the word "comprehensive" to mean that it's complete
14:24
<littledan>
so if you are trying to make a weaker claim, this isn't really the best word
14:24
<Andreu Botella>
you might be right
14:24
<littledan>
maybe we could say "test262 coverage for core paths"
14:31
<Justin Ridgewell>
Some investigation into interaction with other TC39 proposals
What other proposal?
14:31
<Justin Ridgewell>
(Sorry about the unedited text, I’m still getting use to a new keyboard layout)
14:35
<Andreu Botella>
Some investigation into interaction with other TC39 proposals
What other proposal?
I assume that means iterator helpers
14:35
<Justin Ridgewell>
Ahh
14:36
<littledan>
also signals
14:41
<bakkot>
incidentally it looks like Observables are going to be in Chrome regardless of what happens elsewhere; not sure if there has been discussion of integration there https://github.com/WICG/observable
14:41
<littledan>
My understanding is that Chrome has them behind a flag; they haven't done an i2s so no decision has been made
14:41
<Andreu Botella>
we were considering existing observers, like IntersectionObserver, which are already an established part of the web platform
14:41
<Andreu Botella>
I haven't looked into observables though
14:42
<littledan>
incidentally it looks like Observables are going to be in Chrome regardless of what happens elsewhere; not sure if there has been discussion of integration there https://github.com/WICG/observable
I've expressed my concerns with Observables in issues on the repo and I haven't heard back, so I'm not really sure how any integration work would proceed...
14:43
<littledan>
I suspect that explicit positions from WebKit and Mozilla will be pretty influential as to whether Chrome ships this
14:43
<littledan>
also the TAG review which hasn't come back
14:45
<bakkot>
I... do not share that expectation
14:48
<littledan>
My main concern with observables is that people will reach for them for reactivity--and get broken push-based reactivity as a result. They should use lazy, pull-based reactivity instead, as proposed in Signals
14:49
<littledan>
Here's what I wrote previously (but this was back when I didn't understand reactivity as well): https://github.com/WICG/observable/issues/56