00:35 | <DerekNonGeneric> |
okay cool, so this is the room where i think i will be hanging out in for quite a while |
00:37 | <DerekNonGeneric> | TC39 has a very colorful history and there are so many things i would be interested in knowing about that took place in the olden days of Netscape |
01:13 | <DerekNonGeneric> | one thing that i've been curious about is this so-called "ECMAScript Edition 4 Reference Implementation" that Brenden Eich blogged about in 2017 https://brendaneich.com/2007/06/ecmascript-edition-4-reference-implementation/ |
01:20 | <DerekNonGeneric> | would anyone happen to know where to get a copy of this es4-pre-release.M1.source.tar.gz source archive that was publicly available a while ago? http://web.archive.org/web/20090606010542/http://www.ecmascript.org/download.php |
01:22 | <DerekNonGeneric> | have had no luck getting past the pesky agreement checkpoint to grab a copy -- it seems to interfere with the JS that internet archive uses for their time travel frame |
02:04 | <jmdyck> | (2007, not 2017.) |
02:05 | <DerekNonGeneric> | oh, good catch jmdyck |
02:12 | <DerekNonGeneric> | this is indeed weird... according to ecmascript.org, the 5th edition was approved
... but, according to the official Ecma page “ECMA-262 Edition 4” along with “ECMA-262 Edition 5” were not recognized as Ecma International publications, but somehow we ended up with only “ECMA-262 Edition 5.1” being recognized |
02:15 | <jmdyck> | I don't see where the page you linked to says that. |
02:16 | <DerekNonGeneric> |
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02:16 | <jmdyck> | Yup, I see that. But not what you said about the 5th. |
02:17 | <DerekNonGeneric> | oh, if you keep scrolling below "Online Archives", it does show the 5th edition there |
02:17 | <jmdyck> | yup |
02:17 | <DerekNonGeneric> | my mistake! |
02:22 | <DerekNonGeneric> | wow, a whole decade between the 3rd edition (December 1999) and 5th edition (December 2009) then -- that is quite intriguing; then they went a couple years to bump a minor version of the spec lol |
02:26 | <jmdyck> | You might be interested in "JavaScript: The First 20 Years" https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3386327 |
02:27 | <DerekNonGeneric> | oh absolutely, i have been meaning to dig into this paper in greater detail |
02:34 | <jmdyck> | https://github.com/bkero/es4 looks like it might be what you're looking for |
02:37 | <DerekNonGeneric> | seeing as how Dave Herman (mentioned in the original blog post) forked it and the times seem to coincide a little, that seems like it might be legit https://github.com/dherman/es4 |