2022-11-17 [05:54:26.0136] <тars> Is `NaN` a finite Number value in ecma262? Or not? I think it's not a finite Number value, but reading the specs below, all Number values except +∞𝔽 or -∞𝔽 could also be read as finite, so I was wondering about that. https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-ecmascript-language-types-number-type [05:59:51.0382] No, NaN isn't finite. That section introduces the 3 special values (NaN and the infinities), and then says "The other values are the 'finite' values." [06:01:20.0070] * No, NaN isn't finite. That section introduces the 3 special values (NaN and the infinities), and then says "The other values are called the 'finite' values." [06:04:18.0719] Are you suggesting that "other" could be read as "other than the 2 infinities", rather than "other than the 3 values introduced above"? [06:08:04.0515] <тars> Oh, I see. It's crystal clear now! Thank you very much. > Are you suggesting that "other" could be read as "other than the 2 infinities", rather than "other than the 3 values introduced above"? Yes I thought so, but I understand "other" means 3 special values above now. Thanks. [06:08:29.0928] <тars> * Oh, I see. It's crystal clear now! Thank you very much. > Are you suggesting that "other" could be read as "other than the 2 infinities", rather than "other than the 3 values introduced above"? Yes I thought so, but I understand "other" means 3 special values above now. Thanks. [06:08:43.0057] no problem. [06:17:19.0504] can also verify via: `Number.isFinite(NaN)` [06:35:39.0828] <тars> Thanks! Actually, I had noticed that, but their definition is like `If number is not finite, return false.` and I didn't get what "not finite" really meant. So that also made me wonder. lol [06:53:10.0685] <тars> * Thanks! Actually, I had noticed and tried that and was about 80~90% sure NaN is not finite, but their definition is like `If number is not finite, return false.` and I didn't get what "not finite" really meant there. So that also made me wonder. lol 2022-11-18 [05:32:23.0734] <тars> As someone who is not a member of TC39 or ECMA, where should I start if I want to make a new proposal? Would it be better to start by writing a document using the template below and then ask someone here to review it? https://github.com/tc39/template-for-proposals [05:32:56.0689] yeah, you can start authoring a proposal and ask someone to champion it [05:33:08.0771] Also see how-we-work for a practical guide (the template does not include this) [05:33:14.0283] maybe a faster place to start/iterate would be the discourse [05:35:48.0981] <тars> Ok, Thanks! [08:13:46.0102] тars: See https://github.com/tc39/how-we-work/blob/main/champion.md 2022-11-28 [10:24:41.0026] Hi, all. 👋 This is only my second time attending TC39, and the first time was over four years ago. Since we're less than 24 hours from the start, I'm trying to get a feel for what to expect, along the lines of "when will the draft schedule be posted?", and "how can I test my configuration to make sure I'm ready to present with no technical glitches?" [10:25:55.0359] hi Alex, and welcome! the draft schedule is ideally posted the day before, but sometimes that's not possible [10:26:18.0100] -- a little hand-holding before the meeting starts with someone who's presented before would be very much appreciated. [10:26:28.0830] there will be people in the meeting room before it starts in order to do a tech check [10:26:29.0545] * -- a little hand-holding before the meeting starts with someone who's presented before would be very much appreciated. [10:26:42.0185] yeah, this is a good place to ask questions! [10:28:24.0332] When do you expect the meeting room to be operational for that tech check? [10:29:23.0533] the chairs have mentioned it'll be available 30 minutes before the start of the meeting [10:30:26.0483] oh, right, the link isn't available yet 🤦‍♂️ [10:31:41.0065] I believe you have access as an invited expert to the tc39/Reflector github repository for meeting logistics information - I'd recommend subscribing to notifications on that repo [10:32:47.0419] (that's also where the draft schedule will be posted) [10:32:54.0042] I _am_ watching the repository, and subscribed to the "93rd Meeting" issue. If that means I'm all set regarding the news, then I'm good for now. [10:33:45.0455] (I also hope no one remembers my arrogant know-a-lot attitude at my first meeting's beginners session 😅) [10:33:51.0518] ah, great. that's all you need. notifications will be published there [10:34:34.0332] likely they will be mentioned in the TC39 Delegates channel on Matrix as well, but the repo is the source of truth [10:42:59.0930] Thank you. :) 2022-11-29 [00:43:39.0546] _I'm in._ [01:59:43.0972] yulia What does STR mean? [02:00:09.0221] oh, Steps-to-reproduce [05:56:38.0147] is it possible to change the affiliation shown next to my name on TCQ? The company I work for (and have set on my GitHub profile) has nothing to do with why I'm here [05:56:45.0000] (probably an edge case :)) [05:57:08.0356] TCQ just picks it up from GitHub 😢 [05:57:19.0514] but you could make a PR! [05:57:37.0029] https://github.com/bterlson/tcq