09:34 | <ryzokuken> | hey sffc |
11:00 | <littledan> | I guess this channel doesn't yet have the access limitations for delegates worked out. Does anyone want to take on that permissioning project? |
11:01 | <ryzokuken> | littledan: in the last inclusion group meeting, I suggested we try to investigate, to take it off the chair group's plate. |
11:01 | <ryzokuken> | I think Mark might be onto this, but I'm not sure. |
11:02 | <littledan> | well, regardless of whether the chair group handles this long-term, someone should set up the ACLs at least for now, just for our testing |
11:02 | <littledan> | so I'm glad mpcsh is on it |
11:03 | <ryzokuken> | yes, it's just a bit complicated to figure the starting rules out. Like... I think we're going for custom power levels (since Mark gave Shane a custom level yesterday) but we need to figure out how to restrict people below that level from speaking. |
11:05 | <ryzokuken> | oh wow, wait it does work |
11:05 | <ryzokuken> | littledan: I just joined from an alt and I cannot post here. |
11:06 | <ryzokuken> | so I think this room already has comparable restrictions to the IRC equivalent. |
11:06 | <ryzokuken> | now there's one nice-to-have. Can we figure out a way to make delegates confer delegate status to their colleagues? |
11:07 | <ryzokuken> | I guess an "simpler" way to do this could be with a matrix bot that has mod permissions. |
11:07 | <ryzokuken> | so based on the power level of the requester (10 or above) it could assign power level 10 to whoever they mention. |
11:09 | <Jack Works> | 👀 |
11:13 | <littledan> | Oh, how is the list of acceptable participants established/maintained? |
11:15 | <ryzokuken> | littledan: what do you mean by acceptable participants? |
11:15 | <littledan> | delegates |
11:15 | <ryzokuken> | a bunch of us already have power level 10 or more. We can ask the bot to give level 10 to any of our colleagues too. |
11:16 | <ryzokuken> | the idea is that while we don't want to give all delegates the power to kick/mute/ban others, we trust them enough to only add folks who are genuinely new delegates |
11:19 | <littledan> | yeah that sounds great |
11:19 | <ryzokuken> | the question is, is there a matrix/element way of doing this or should we make a bot to do it? |
11:20 | <ryzokuken> | but by all means, that is not a question we need to answer immediately. |
14:59 | <bradleymeck> | check |
15:00 | <littledan> | (not sure why we're using a custom level here...) |
15:00 | bradleymeck | stares that it could be 39 |
15:01 | <ryzokuken> | littledan: because the two preset levels are "mod" and "admin" |
15:01 | <ryzokuken> | there's nothing that corresponds to +v per-se |
15:02 | <ryzokuken> | but thankfully, the protocol allows us to set custom levels so we can roll out our own +v (or more). |
15:03 | <littledan> | I guess if we made all delegates moderators, they would be able to invite others |
15:04 | <ryzokuken> | I think so, but they would also be able to kick/ban/mute others |
15:06 | <littledan> | I see |
19:06 | <mpcsh> | ryzokuken littledan yeah bterlson set up the access restrictions - the 10 power level is delegate . anyone with that power level can grant it to anyone else, and you need it to speak |
19:07 | <ryzokuken> | is there a way to name the level that? |
19:08 | <ryzokuken> | I guess it would be nicer if it showed up in the interface... |
22:09 | <mpcsh> | I don't think so, unfortunately |