09:34
<ryzokuken>
hey sffc
11:00
<littledan>
I guess this channel doesn't yet have the access limitations for delegates worked out. Does anyone want to take on that permissioning project?
11:01
<ryzokuken>
littledan: in the last inclusion group meeting, I suggested we try to investigate, to take it off the chair group's plate.
11:01
<ryzokuken>
I think Mark might be onto this, but I'm not sure.
11:02
<littledan>
well, regardless of whether the chair group handles this long-term, someone should set up the ACLs at least for now, just for our testing
11:02
<littledan>
so I'm glad mpcsh is on it
11:03
<ryzokuken>
yes, it's just a bit complicated to figure the starting rules out. Like... I think we're going for custom power levels (since Mark gave Shane a custom level yesterday) but we need to figure out how to restrict people below that level from speaking.
11:05
<ryzokuken>
oh wow, wait it does work
11:05
<ryzokuken>
littledan: I just joined from an alt and I cannot post here.
11:06
<ryzokuken>
so I think this room already has comparable restrictions to the IRC equivalent.
11:06
<ryzokuken>
now there's one nice-to-have. Can we figure out a way to make delegates confer delegate status to their colleagues?
11:07
<ryzokuken>
I guess an "simpler" way to do this could be with a matrix bot that has mod permissions.
11:07
<ryzokuken>
so based on the power level of the requester (10 or above) it could assign power level 10 to whoever they mention.
11:09
<Jack Works>
👀
11:13
<littledan>
Oh, how is the list of acceptable participants established/maintained?
11:15
<ryzokuken>
littledan: what do you mean by acceptable participants?
11:15
<littledan>
delegates
11:15
<ryzokuken>
a bunch of us already have power level 10 or more. We can ask the bot to give level 10 to any of our colleagues too.
11:16
<ryzokuken>
the idea is that while we don't want to give all delegates the power to kick/mute/ban others, we trust them enough to only add folks who are genuinely new delegates
11:19
<littledan>
yeah that sounds great
11:19
<ryzokuken>
the question is, is there a matrix/element way of doing this or should we make a bot to do it?
11:20
<ryzokuken>
but by all means, that is not a question we need to answer immediately.
14:59
<bradleymeck>
check
15:00
<littledan>
(not sure why we're using a custom level here...)
15:00
bradleymeck
stares that it could be 39
15:01
<ryzokuken>
littledan: because the two preset levels are "mod" and "admin"
15:01
<ryzokuken>
there's nothing that corresponds to +v per-se
15:02
<ryzokuken>
but thankfully, the protocol allows us to set custom levels so we can roll out our own +v (or more).
15:03
<littledan>
I guess if we made all delegates moderators, they would be able to invite others
15:04
<ryzokuken>
I think so, but they would also be able to kick/ban/mute others
15:06
<littledan>
I see
19:06
<mpcsh>
ryzokuken littledan yeah bterlson set up the access restrictions - the 10 power level is delegate. anyone with that power level can grant it to anyone else, and you need it to speak
19:07
<ryzokuken>
is there a way to name the level that?
19:08
<ryzokuken>
I guess it would be nicer if it showed up in the interface...
22:09
<mpcsh>
I don't think so, unfortunately