00:06
<littledan>
Was the conclusion for SuppressedError cause to simply ignore the options bag, not eagerly check it and, like, throw a worse error if the cause is given?
00:17
<littledan>
What do people think about putting in a slightly more complete summary in the conclusion for topics in the notes? The idea would be to include a summary of the discussion, not just the points where we reached consensus. I don't see many of these summaries, though. This was a suggestion from several parties, to ensure that our conversations are more accessible.
00:19
<Michael Ficarra>
I don't think we should summarise the notes within the notes
00:19
<Michael Ficarra>
if you want to make a summary, keep it separate from the notes
00:20
<Michael Ficarra>
when I look at the conclusion, I am looking for a clearly spelled out, short description of actions or opinions that we have agreed upon
00:34
<rbuckton>
Was the conclusion for SuppressedError cause to simply ignore the options bag, not eagerly check it and, like, throw a worse error if the cause is given?
The conclusion was to ignore it.
02:17
<littledan>
OK I have tried to describe this in the conclusion; reviews/edits welcome
02:19
<littledan>
if you want to make a summary, keep it separate from the notes
Well, I was proposing this for convenience/increased engagement, but it clearly didn’t work. Does anyone want to propose another way that we could share the work to write summaries? The old way (leobalter does it all) was unsustainable.
02:20
<littledan>
I was thinking that some kind of Google doc is a better way to do this than, say, some facilitator badgers each champion to write a summary and then concatenates them, because this allows us all to edit the summaries for accuracy
02:33
<Michael Ficarra>
littledan: someone from the community can do it?
02:34
<Michael Ficarra>
the raw info is all there in the notes
03:03
<ljharb>
I don't think we should summarise the notes within the notes
we have precedent for a separate summary.md in the notes folder for the meeting
03:55
<littledan>
littledan: someone from the community can do it?
OK, so, given that someone from the community could have been doing this for the past two years, what should we do differently to encourage this?
07:39
<Rob Palmer>

I would suggest we task the presenter with populating the summary inside the notes doc, next to the conclusion. Google Docs already supports assigning inline issues.

On publishing, these can be extracted to a separate file called summary.md

07:40
<Rob Palmer>
This spreads the workload and provides Champion-assured quality.
08:25
<Rob Palmer>

Reminder: Nominations for TC39 Chair Group are due by 13 February. The two position available are Chair and Facilitator as described here.

https://github.com/tc39/Reflector/issues/456

16:34
<shu>
wait
16:34
<shu>
you know what we didn't do last plenary
16:34
<shu>
figure out new name for group
18:16
<ljharb>
oof, that's right. Justin Ridgewell can we make sure that's on the march agenda?
19:13
<Justin Ridgewell>
Yah, ran out of time before this meeting to work on it
21:59
<bakkot>
can we make Array.prototype[Symbol.iterator] non-writable, do you think
21:59
<bakkot>
in an exotic way so as to not trigger the override mistake
22:00
<bakkot>
and also the methods on ArrayIteratorPrototype
22:01
<bakkot>
this would be a commitment to never changing its behavior because such a change could never be polyfilled if it were non-writable, but that commitment seems worth making anyway
22:02
<ljharb>
nonwritable is fine if it's configurable
22:03
<ljharb>
or you want it to be exotically nonconfigurable also
22:52
<bakkot>
nonconfigurable also
22:52
<bakkot>
specifically I want people not to be able to mess with it
22:52
<bakkot>
so for (let item of [0, 1, 2]) becomes reliable