| 08:00 | <ryzokuken> | oooh, looks like someone mentioned this channel somewhere |
| 08:00 | <ryzokuken> | the voyager bot is here... |
| 15:03 | <shu> | is there a way to auto-accept DM requests? |
| 15:04 | <littledan> | in practice, the DM request thing isn't much of a bother for me, since people can send messages before the DM request is accepted, and also because you end up having an open DM with many of the people you want to talk to |
| 15:05 | <littledan> | (I don't know how to auto-accept) |
| 15:05 | <shu> | well, i'm trying to accept one someone sent me yesterday, and it says "The person who invited you already left the room." so i can't view what the message was |
| 17:49 | <ljharb> | i just want to disable that gate entirely; i don't want to have to approve DMs |
| 18:07 | <littledan> | oh, I guess people should learn that they shouldn't leave the room like that, I dunno |
| 18:08 | <littledan> | maybe someone else knows how to remove the gate, but I think once you know how to use it, it's really OK |
| 18:12 | <ptomato> | I expect it's intended as a mitigation for harassment until a mod can step in; if someone is sending you abusive DMs from multiple accounts, then you can block them without having to read the messages |
| 19:53 | <shu> | is it possible to consolidate matrix accounts somehow? |
| 19:53 | <shu> | i forgot i already had a mozilla.org one |
| 19:54 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | shu: there's currently no official consolidation or migration mechanism, but there's a tool at https://ems.element.io/tools/matrix-migration that kinda emulates it by inviting your new user into all the old user's rooms and such |
| 19:54 | <shu> | i see |
| 19:54 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | presumably(tm) it also works for consolidation* |
| 19:54 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | * I am not liable for any problems :D |
| 19:55 | <littledan> | (of course you can just do this manually, by sort of orphaning one of your accounts) |
| 19:55 | <littledan> | for permissions porting, we'll just do this manually, whether or not you use that tool |
| 19:56 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | i just want to disable that gate entirely; i don't want to have to approve DMs |
| 19:56 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | presumably that'll get fixed with the "canonical DM" spec changes |
| 19:56 | <shu> | i guess i should just use the mozilla.org one, let me invite myself... |
| 19:58 | <shu> | oh i can't invite in all rooms |
| 19:58 | <shu> | okay, that's enough obstacles for one day, will try this later |
| 19:59 | <ryzokuken> | shu: you can join the rooms via links, but the way the rooms are set up currently, you cannot use the invite button to do it... |
| 19:59 | <ryzokuken> | maybe someone can change the permissions on all the rooms to make sure everyone can invite new people? |
| 20:07 | <bakkot> | ryzokuken: thaaaaaat seems like a bug |
| 20:07 | <bakkot> | the protocol, or at least the server, should not allow being in the state "anyone can join, but not anyone can invite" |
| 20:07 | <ryzokuken> | no, it's just permissions set badly. |
| 20:08 | <bakkot> | if the protocol allows permissions to be in an inconsistent state that's a bug in the protocol, not a problem with the permissions |
| 20:08 | <ryzokuken> | in the room settings, we changed it to "anyone with the link can join" but "who can invite" is set the just the admins or sth |
| 20:08 | <ryzokuken> | hm, that's a fair criticism actually. |
| 20:08 | <ryzokuken> | I could make an issue, but for now we can just fix the permissions |
| 20:09 | <DerekNonGeneric> | same boat here: would like to consolidate (unsure whether i want mozilla.org or matrix.org) |
| 20:12 | <DerekNonGeneric_> | for sure want to get rid of the parenthesis after my name tho |
| 20:12 | <ryzokuken> | that would be a problem if both accounts have the same nick |
| 20:13 | <ryzokuken> | the _ at the end solution works, but you don't even necessarily have to globally do that |
| 20:13 | <ryzokuken> | if there is a subset of rooms where you want both accounts to be present, just change the nicks of the secondary account for those rooms |
| 20:14 | <ryzokuken> | /myroomnick <your fallback nick> in a room but change your nick in just one room |
| 20:17 | <DerekNonGeneric_> | i don't need both accounts to be present, but maybe if i globally update the nick of the secondary, i will not have the parens |
| 20:17 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | the protocol, or at least the server, should not allow being in the state "anyone can join, but not anyone can invite" |
| 20:18 | <joepie91 🏳️🌈> | though I'm not sure whether that is also the case when someone doesn't have unban perms |