| 02:20 | <dcrousso> | how does one get access to TC39 Delegates? |
| 02:21 | <shu> | one of the admins need to change your access level so you can talk |
| 06:22 | <Hemanth H.M> | Aki: World's first make-your-own KitKat shop opening in Tokyo! :D |
| 06:22 | <ljharb> | ooh |
| 06:34 | <Aki> | shut up |
| 10:50 | <DerekNonGeneric> | this is interesting... according to a user by the name of munrocket,
source: https://github.com/tc39/proposals/pull/362#issuecomment-871434628 |
| 10:54 | <DerekNonGeneric> | the process document (https://tc39.es/process-document/) is silent on the matter and i have personally been curious about this myself since the proposal template also suggests that there is a stage -1 (https://github.com/tc39/template-for-proposals/blob/main/spec.emu) /cc yulia maybe knows? |
| 16:01 | <ljharb> | DerekNonGeneric: "stage -1" is just a conventional way to refer to ideas that aren't actually an official proposal |
| 16:04 | <DerekNonGeneric> | ljharb, is that the same thing as "spec fiction" then? |
| 16:04 | <devsnek> | spec fiction is something in the spec that no implementation has |
| 16:08 | <ljharb> | "stage -1" is just a convenient way to describe a proposal idea seeking a champion, since without a champion it's not actually a proposal |
| 16:09 | <devsnek> | technically without consensus for stage 1 it's not a proposal |
| 16:09 | <devsnek> | or with consensus for stages 2-4 |
| 16:10 | <ljharb> | that's not true. technically there are no entry requirements for stage 0 |
| 16:10 | <devsnek> | ye i was making a joke about stage 1 being called "Proposal" |
| 16:10 | <ljharb> | but since that technically means EVERYTHING is already a stage 0 proposal, we've always treated it as "it's not stage 0 til a champion has it on an agenda" |
| 16:29 | <DerekNonGeneric> | spec fiction is something in the spec that no implementation has this seems to be a pretty accurate description from what i can tell elsewhere...
source: https://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-August/063981.html |
| 16:30 | <DerekNonGeneric> | thanks much! |
| 16:35 | DerekNonGeneric | thinking about how to distill this -1 info into a PR to the stage table in the process document |
| 16:37 | <ljharb> | i do not think it belongs there. |
| 16:37 | <ljharb> | it's just a community convention. |
| 16:38 | <DerekNonGeneric> | hmm, maybe a small note in the table caption would be enough |
| 16:43 | <ljharb> | even that would give it more officialness than it deserves, i think |
| 16:45 | <DerekNonGeneric> | if we had that wiki up and running, an entry there would be nice |