| 05:57 | <Rob Palmer> | It's very simple. Note the observer on the plenary invite, then point them to the signin form, and advise them not to speak. |
| 12:43 | <littledan> | It's very simple. Note the observer on the plenary invite, then point them to the signin form, and advise them not to speak. |
| 12:44 | <littledan> | but in this case, Purdue is a member! maybe they can just become a delegate via Purdue |
| 21:12 | <whosy> | shu: I think it means the ordering of the word parts, Update+Insert=UpSert, when they're focusing more on the Insert rather than Update? |
| 21:12 | <shu> | how is the "focus more on insert than update" conclusion reached? they're both one syllable |
| 21:13 | <whosy> | I have no idea, I'm just reading off the document. "as there was a desire to focus on insertion. " I guess they wanted the name to reflect that, but somehow went with something entirely unrelated based on a precedent set by another language. It all seems a mess to me. |
| 21:14 | <ljharb> | i think it was a sense of "up is first in 'upsert', so update is more important"? |
| 21:15 | <snek> | updert |
| 21:15 | <Ashley Claymore> | i think it was a sense of "up is first in 'upsert', so update is more important"? |
| 21:16 | <ljharb> | indate |
| 21:16 | <snek> | i feel like "upsert focuses too much on update" is some form of bait |
| 21:23 | <whosy> | I don't disagree with the result though. Emplace does have precedent, and it's an obscure enough word that it's unlikely to overlap with anything else. |
| 21:24 | <littledan> | (I don't really like either name) |
| 21:24 | <bakkot> | compute! a much better name |
| 21:35 | <TabAtkins> | smh that we're not going with indate |
| 21:37 | <snek> | how about map.‽ |
| 21:37 | <ljharb> | insup |
| 21:37 | <Chris de Almeida> | oo Tab's here. TabAtkins what's up with |> |
| 21:37 | <TabAtkins> | wait this isn't tdz |
| 21:37 | <ljharb> | i would love a property named with the snark |
| 21:37 | <TabAtkins> | oo Tab's here. TabAtkins what's up with |
| 21:38 | <Chris de Almeida> | peetk: 👀 |
| 21:38 | <TabAtkins> | has it become more relevant suddenly, or is this just general interest? |
| 21:38 | <Chris de Almeida> | came up a few minutes ago at plenary |
| 21:39 | <Chris de Almeida> | reviewing stagnant stage 2 proposals |
| 21:39 | <Chris de Almeida> | stagnant used loosely |
| 21:39 | <TabAtkins> | ah kk |
| 21:39 | <TabAtkins> | nah that's a relevant term for it atm |
| 21:40 | <whosy> | Due to a distro upgrade (and I think an Element package downgrade for some reason), I've somehow lost all my chat history with you, TabAtkins . How's your proposal? |
| 21:40 | <TabAtkins> | whoops! |
| 21:40 | <TabAtkins> | the random one? |
| 21:40 | <whosy> | Ah, do you have multiple? (I'll have to check that out!) But yeah, the seeded PRNG. |
| 21:41 | <TabAtkins> | nothing has changed since we last chatted, due to other things taking my time! |
| 21:41 | <TabAtkins> | (to a large extent, vacations) |
| 21:41 | <Michael Ficarra> | @TabAtkins I think maybe @bakkot was interested in taking it off your hands? You two should chat. |
| 21:41 | <whosy> | That's a nice problem to have. I still look forward to seeing how it might progress. |
| 21:42 | <TabAtkins> | I am more than happy to get someone else in who has time for it, yes |
| 21:42 | <TabAtkins> | would like to still keep my hand in, but absolutely no problem with @bakkot coming in as co-champ |
| 21:44 | <Michael Ficarra> | it probably won't be until after he gets async iterator helpers over the line, so maybe another couple months |
| 21:45 | <TabAtkins> | Np |
| 21:46 | <whosy> | I'm still quite passionate on language Random-ness as a whole. |