| 02:48 | <canadahonk> | how does it work with author vs champion? |
| 02:49 | <ljharb> | often they're the same people, but sometimes the author isn't a delegate and can't champion |
| 02:49 | <Chris de Almeida> | they are often the same, but authors author it and champions argue it |
| 02:50 | <ljharb> | and sometimes a new champion takes over an old proposal and the old champion is still the author |
| 02:50 | <canadahonk> | so if someone authored a proposal and I want to champion and potentially edit, I would be champion and me and the other would both be authors, right |
| 02:50 | <ljharb> | yep |
| 02:51 | <Chris de Almeida> | maybe, depends how much you add to it |
| 02:51 | <canadahonk> | sure, but generally |
| 02:51 | <Michael Ficarra> | very likely |
| 02:51 | <ljharb> | no hard rubric tho, just a judgement call |
| 02:52 | <Chris de Almeida> | champions must be on committee and authors needn't |
| 02:56 | <canadahonk> | also should only spec.emu be used today (not spec.html)? |
| 02:57 | <shu> | you can name it whatever you want |
| 02:57 | <shu> | i like html |
| 02:57 | <shu> | ain't nobody know what emu is |
| 02:57 | <Richard Gibson> | spec.sgml |
| 02:58 | <keith_miller> | Isn't it a bird? |
| 02:58 | <Andreu Botella (at TC39, 🕐 JST)> | spec.ostrich |
| 02:58 | <canadahonk> | spec.spec |
| 03:01 | <Meghan Denny> | emu comes from https://github.com/tc39/ecmarkup |
| 03:02 | <Meghan Denny> | i used to think it was a bikeshed fork but im not sure if thats true/when it happened if it did |
| 03:03 | <linusg> | file extensions are bloat: https://github.com/whatwg/html/blob/main/source |
| 03:03 | <ljharb> | name it whatever you want, but the template repo starts it out as spec.emu |
| 04:07 | <Domenic> | i used to think it was a bikeshed fork but im not sure if thats true/when it happened if it did |
| 04:08 | <canadahonk> | random spec check: is "the extended mathematical value of" used in place of ℝ() only when the earlier steps do not handle +-Infinity? |
| 04:57 | <canadahonk> | intros in spec for proposals with only one clause, yay or nay |
| 04:58 | <bakkot> | I like to have a link to the github |
| 04:58 | <bakkot> | not everyone bothers |
| 04:59 | <canadahonk> | oh yeah that's nice |
| 04:59 | <canadahonk> | also is there an actual standard ;) / template for proposal's readme somewhere? |
| 05:02 | <bakkot> | nope |
| 05:03 | <Michael Ficarra> | @canadahonk I've developed this pattern over time: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-iterator-sequencing |
| 05:03 | <Michael Ficarra> | it changes a bit as the proposal goes through the stages |
| 05:04 | <Michael Ficarra> | earlier stages focus more on the open design space and later stages focus more on the design we ended up with |
| 05:04 | <canadahonk> | neat |
| 05:11 | <ljharb> | (fwiw the spec link will be on the right hand side, so it's arguably redundant to include it in the readme) |
| 05:14 | <bakkot> | the link on the RHS is not always to the spec; on proposals with a playground or docs it's usually those |
| 05:14 | <bakkot> | and the link on the RHS doesn't say what it is |
| 05:15 | <ljharb> | ah, that's fair. most proposals only have the spec link tho |
| 05:15 | <Richard Gibson> | what I really wish were more common is links to GitHub from the rendered spec, as in https://tc39.es/proposal-json-parse-with-source/ |
| 05:16 | <ljharb> | yeah true, that'd be a good addition to ecmarkup actually |
| 05:17 | <Richard Gibson> | what, you don't like this? |
| 05:18 | <ljharb> | oh interesting, that's workable i guess. i was thinking more of like the upper right dog-ear corner with a github logo |
| 05:19 | <Michael Ficarra> | the link on the RHS is not always to the spec; on proposals with a playground or docs it's usually those |
| 05:20 | <Michael Ficarra> | oh interesting, that's workable i guess. i was thinking more of like the upper right dog-ear corner with a github logo |
| 05:23 | <ljharb> | i like https://github.com/tholman/github-corners a bit better |
| 05:23 | <Richard Gibson> | there's also the dead-simple approach taken by ecma262 itself |
| 05:24 | <ljharb> | not fancy enough :-p |
| 05:30 | <Richard Gibson> | https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOG15N2NncXc5eWYzd2NhaGF4eXA5dm1pM2doZGk0aTJmYW5wNTFzNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9cw/WcYnTzdrjQphdu33xs/giphy.gif |
| 05:31 | <Michael Ficarra> | get github to update their official recommendations and I'll change it https://github.blog/news-insights/the-library/github-ribbons/ |
| 06:31 | <Aapo Alasuutari> | spec.spec |
