03:21
<kriskowal>
I’m on the docket now to present “Import Hook” at plenary and have reserved the option of asking for Stage 1, so would be delighted to see folks at TG3 and Module Harmony and discuss https://github.com/endojs/proposal-import-hook
03:22
<kriskowal>
And, naugtur has taken on the front seat role for “new Global”, which we expect to be a hard sell and will want to invite everyone to the table https://github.com/endojs/proposal-new-global
03:23
<kriskowal>
What makes this different is that we are not going to ask for a new category of global object, just the ability to replicate existing categories with the option of limiting which observable properties are grafted from the incubating global, without limiting whatever internal slots are needed to function properly in implementations.
08:06
<annevk>
Keeping WindowProxy and Window objects straight in one's mind is already too complex, as also evidenced by the proposal not even acknowledging or going into the particular difficulties of that. At least ShadowRealms had a pretty plausible story, they were just not compelling enough.
16:13
<kriskowal>
I would like to talk to you specifically about this before we touch on this at plenary. We’re probably going to pull this off the agenda, but wanted to get it in before the deadline just in case.
16:23
<kriskowal>
And also particularly ptomato who among us knows a great deal about those difficulties.
16:23
<annevk>
I can probably squeeze in a short chat somewhere next week. E.g., something early for you on Wednesday?
16:24
<kriskowal>
Let’s use TG-3. That meets Wednesday early.
16:24
<kriskowal>
I mean, early Pacific, late Central Europe.
16:25
<annevk>
I suspect that works, though I'll need the details again.
16:27
<annevk>
Unfortunately 7PM my time is not early enough and ends up overlapping with something else. 6PM would work.
16:31
<kriskowal>
Let me connect you to champion naugtur who is closer to your time zone.
16:32
<kriskowal>
I’m occasionally available an hour earlier, but non-deterministically, what with the procedure for launching the kids out of the home office.
17:57
<ptomato>
I'm at a conference next week and will have very spotty availability
17:59
<ptomato>
maybe async would be easier?
17:59
<kriskowal>
We’ll catch you when we can. Maybe Module Harmony meeting (every other Thursday) or the subsequent TG-3. We’ll appreciate a chance to catch up whenever you’re around. Would be neat if when Tab’s in the room, but not necessarily.
18:09
<kriskowal>
Sure. I’m interested in your strategic advice, hurdles worth avoiding, &c. My understanding from your related experience with our sister proposal ShadowRealm is that is blocked on motivating cases, so we expect to need rich motivating cases and even a parade of invited experts to testify to them. Some if not all of those are overlapping with trade-offs.
18:13
<ptomato>
I can't guarantee good advice, but I can definitely give advice 😄