| 15:35 | <ntim> | annevk: Thanks for the review! I wonder if I should remove "The user agent may ignore the node for the purposes of text search (commonly known as "find in page")." altogether. No implementation currently does this (unless aria-hidden nodes are ignored in some contexts). |
| 16:22 | <ntim> | annevk: also, about "This data-x-href needs to move to where the other data-x-hrefs are.", where are the other data-x-hrefs typically? |
| 16:23 | <Ms2ger 💉💉> | "dependencies" section? |
| 16:23 | <ntim> | ah makes sense thank you |
| 16:45 | <annevk> | ntim: I don't have a strong opinion, how do UAs deal with it then? Wouldn't searching result in selection? |
| 17:00 | <ntim> | annevk: searching results in highlighting, not necessarily selection |
| 17:02 | <ntim> | (anyway, I addressed all your comments) |
| 17:06 | <annevk> | Ah yeah, for some reason I thought you could copy-and-paste the currently highlighted one, but that's not a thing |
| 17:06 | <annevk> | Still might be frustrating if you can search and find, but not select and copy |
| 17:11 | <annevk> | Thanks ntim! Reviewed again. I suspect we'll wait with landing until next week btw as it's a somewhat big change so Domenic should probably be around. |
| 17:17 | <ntim> |
Not sure how to spec this formally aside from this matches |
| 17:17 | <ntim> | annevk: ^ |
| 17:18 | <ntim> | https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/inert/inert-and-contenteditable.tentative.html |
| 17:18 | <ntim> | it would be like execCommand on a non-editable node |
| 17:19 | <ntim> | I guess it would reasonable to reference user-select |
| 17:21 | <annevk> | That would help. Do we have some tests around this? Creating a Selection object and trying to assign it nodes from an inert tree? |
| 17:22 | <annevk> | It's unfortunate none of these specs are defined to that level of detail, but I guess making it clear they should behave the same is a start... |
| 17:22 | <annevk> | emilio thoughts on the above? |
| 17:22 | <ntim> | https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/inert/inert-node-is-unselectable.tentative.html |
| 17:22 | <ntim> | uses execCommand("selectAll") |
| 17:29 | <ntim> | annevk: The "The user agent may ignore the node for the purposes of text search (commonly known as "find in page")." bit, is there more from an a11y standpoint I think, e.g. inert should behave like aria-hidden |
| 17:29 | <ntim> | and the UA may choose to ignore aria-hidden nodes from text search if they want |
| 17:30 | <annevk> | Okay, let's keep it then, no? |
| 17:30 | <ntim> | (It was there before my PR fwiw) |
| 17:30 | <ntim> | sounds good |
| 17:36 | <ntim> | annevk: I clarified the bits around editing and selection |
| 17:42 | <annevk> | ntim: cool, looks good to me modulo nit about using data-x="" instead of dfn |
| 17:43 | <ntim> | annevk: <code data-x=""> by itself seems to complain too |
| 17:45 | <ntim> | like "none" needs to be defined at least once |
| 17:45 | <ntim> | Error: missing <dfn> for topic "inert-css-property-value-none" from 2 sites including explicitly from <code> element containing "none"; previous heading contents are "6.3 Inert subtrees" Error: missing <dfn> for topic "inert-css-property-value-none" from 2 sites including explicitly from <code> element containing "none"; previous heading contents are "6.3 Inert subtrees" Error count: 2 |
| 17:47 | <annevk> | ntim: that means you still use inert-css-property-value-none somewhere |
| 17:47 | <annevk> | ntim: instead you should have <code data-x="">none</code> |
| 17:48 | <ntim> | oh empty string |
| 17:50 | <ntim> | thanks! that does seem to work |
| 17:53 | <ntim> | annevk: something I was wondering is putting the "blocked by a modal dialog" stuff in its own subsection before or after the "inert attribute" one. |
| 17:53 | <ntim> | but it's fine as it is too I guess |
| 17:56 | annevk | looks |
| 17:58 | <annevk> | ntim: up to you, I agree it could work |
| 18:00 | <annevk> | I wonder if inert only applying to Text/Element has implications elsewhere; I guess Text includes CDATASection and Comment/ProcessingInstruction/ShadowRoot are never rendered, so it prolly doesn't matter |
| 18:55 | <Seirdy> | (not asking to ask, just asking for future reference) is WCAG discussion relevant here, or is there a better place? doesn't have to be on matrix. |
| 19:03 | <aja> | (not asking to ask, just asking for future reference) is WCAG discussion relevant here, or is there a better place? doesn't have to be on matrix. |
| 19:10 | <Seirdy> | thanks, might have some questions later today |
| 21:06 | <Domenic> | Yoav Weiss: Noam Rosenthal : what is the cross-origin redirects case for unload timing protecting against? It's basically saying if you go x.com -> y.com --redirects to-> x.com/bar, x.com/bar does not get unload timing for x.com. Why? No information about y.com leaked. |
| 21:08 | <Domenic> | Hmm maybe it's because unloadTimeEnd is an absolute time so you can use it to infer how much time was spent on y.com by comparing it to x.com/bar load time. |
| 21:43 | <Noam Rosenthal> | Yoav Weiss: Noam Rosenthal : what is the cross-origin redirects case for unload timing protecting against? It's basically saying if you go x.com -> y.com --redirects to-> x.com/bar, x.com/bar does not get unload timing for x.com. Why? No information about y.com leaked. |
| 21:43 | <Domenic> | Yeah... |
| 21:43 | <Domenic> | Thanks for checking! |
| 21:51 | <Doug Conmy> | Is there a way to determine if a company (aka Entity) is a whatwg participant/member? That is, they have signed the agreement, https://participate.whatwg.org/agreement , and have a point of contact. I am trying to find out internally in my orgnaization, but if this information is public, or if I could ask a member to check, that could save some time in hunting down the right person from my end. |
| 22:16 | <Domenic> | Is there a way to determine if a company (aka Entity) is a whatwg participant/member? |
| 22:41 | <shu> | got a webidl question: i can't seem to find the definition of what it means "to convert a sequence of values of type T to an ECMAScript value", like in step 1 here: https://webidl.spec.whatwg.org/#es-frozen-array |
| 22:43 | <Mattias Buelens> | got a webidl question: i can't seem to find the definition of what it means "to convert a sequence of values of type T to an ECMAScript value", like in step 1 here: https://webidl.spec.whatwg.org/#es-frozen-array |
| 22:45 | <shu> | tyvm |