09:23 | <sideshowbarker> | I was just looking at some helper page for someone not so familiar with various specs. https://w3c.github.io/mdn-spec-links/ is the closest thing I have this point — as far as what’s up-to-date and actively maintained …however that page doesn’t currently/yet have links to the specs themselves — but I can add that Unlike https://platform.html5.org/ it doesn’t organize the specs into any category groupings — and I really have no plans to ever make it do that. But the nature of it is, it represents the set of specs that we actually have some documentation for in MDN. So it’s fairly complete as far as representing what specs constitute the feature set for the web platform. |
09:25 | <smaug> | I was indeed looking for some page which has links to the specs |
09:25 | <sideshowbarker> | well I can add links to that page, if you think the page with those links added would be useful for what you had in mind |
09:30 | <smaug> | sideshowbarker: or would it be possible to get https://platform.html5.org/ back 🙂 |
09:30 | <smaug> | I think that is the page which had rather nice simple UI |
09:30 | <sideshowbarker> | https://platform.html5.org/ is working for me |
09:31 | <sideshowbarker> | it just has not been updated in literally years |
09:32 | <smaug> | Not loading here. |
09:33 | <sideshowbarker> | ah yeah I guess it was loading from cache for me |
09:36 | <sideshowbarker> | OK, some Dreamhost issue. I forget now how we have that set up but I think the DNS is through Dreamhost with a CNAME or whatever, and the actual content is served from where all the whatwg.org content is served from |
09:38 | <smaug> | The idea is roughly to show some part of the problem space for someone who is coming outside the web platform world. Having a list of specs may give a relatively good hint how vastly different APIs and features we're dealing with. |
09:38 | <sideshowbarker> | OK |
09:43 | <sideshowbarker> | it will take me a while to figure out why https://platform.html5.org/ isn’t responding — but in the meantime I can at least get the spec URLs added to https://w3c.github.io/mdn-spec-links/ that I think I can do right now |
10:24 | <sideshowbarker> | smaug: https://w3c.github.io/mdn-spec-links/ now has all the spec URLs That’s the best I can do for now. Eventually I may be able to replicate https://platform.html5.org/ by writing something that creates an alternative view with them grouped into categories. But that will take quite a lot more time than just adding the spec URLs did. Anyway, it seems like this list does meet the needs of giving a hint about the vastly different APIs and features we're dealing with. It’s close to 300 specs now… |
10:24 | <smaug> | that is good, thanks |
10:31 | <sideshowbarker> | hmm I just thought of one other piece of data I could add that might be useful: I can add a number indicating the how many times MDN articles reference each spec. So, for example, it’ll show that the Accelerometer spec is referenced by 10 MDN articles whereas the HTML spec is referenced by 1087 |
10:45 | <sideshowbarker> | OK https://w3c.github.io/mdn-spec-links/ now shows the MDN-article counts That seems useful for getting a quick sense of the relative importance of each spec. |
10:46 | <sideshowbarker> | …though it’s a bit surprising to see that WebXR has 109 MDN articles — and even more surprising to see that WebCodecs has 100 MDN articles… |
10:48 | <sideshowbarker> | lord, I wonder who wrote all those WebCodecs articles… that’s pretty epic |
10:49 | <sideshowbarker> | none of that implemented outside of Blink yet, I don’t think |
10:53 | <sideshowbarker> | well, I guess that’s an indication that using the count of MDN articles to evaluate the relative importance of a particular spec needs to be tempered by an understanding that part of the way things get into MDN based is based on organizations funding somebody to write up the articles (which can be based on that organization’s particular priorities and not necessarily on how important the feature is to the platform…) |
11:41 | <smaug> | Domenic: do you know who from Google side knows about spellchecking in Chrome (at least Chrome/linux)? |
11:59 | <Domenic> | smaug: no, sorry! |