| 08:21 | <annevk> | Alice: surprised https://alice.pages.igalia.com/blog/how-shadow-dom-and-accessibility-are-in-conflict/ doesn't mention the idea of allowing ElementInternals's element-reflecting attributes to point anywhere as long as the shadow-including root is the same |
| 08:28 | <annevk> | Jake Archibald: FWIW, I like some of the suggestions along the lines of "EventTarget's addEventListener() method"; you could have "Response's json() method" and "Response's static json() method" |
| 08:28 | <annevk> | Something along those lines is what I often do whenever we add a new method to a spec |
| 08:29 | <Jake Archibald> | annevk: when I see both of those examples, I know which is the static method and which is the instance method, but if you just showed me "Response's json() method" I wouldn't be sure |
| 08:30 | <annevk> | Jake Archibald: as a first time visitor you might have to look at an example, but as a repeat visitor it'd be clear, no? |
| 08:32 | <Jake Archibald> | annevk: yeah, but if you have to learn a pattern anyway, "response.json()" is clearer and matches what you'd search for. "instance method" vs "static method" would make it clearer though |
| 08:32 | <Jake Archibald> | maybe search would be fine due to the rest of the content |
| 08:33 | <Jake Archibald> | I definitely search for things like mdn formdata.get |
| 08:33 | <Jake Archibald> | but maybe others don't |
| 08:34 | <Jake Archibald> | (I'd be fine with your suggestion though. Anything that gets us away from FormData.get is an improvement |
| 08:35 | <Jake Archibald> | FormData/instance/get was suggested too |
| 10:54 | <Alice> | Alice: surprised https://alice.pages.igalia.com/blog/how-shadow-dom-and-accessibility-are-in-conflict/ doesn't mention the idea of allowing ElementInternals's element-reflecting attributes to point anywhere as long as the shadow-including root is the same |
| 10:58 | <annevk> | Alice: delegatesLabel also seems like something we could do quickly and would help quite a bit with these form cases |
| 11:07 | <annevk> | Andreu Botella: thanks for adding a use counter for has/delete; makes me wonder if I should more seriously investigate another request for URLSearchParams, adding something like appendAll() |
| 11:13 | <Alice> | Alice: delegatesLabel also seems like something we could do quickly and would help quite a bit with these form cases |
| 11:13 | <Alice> | I have a fuller set of thoughts on solutions here https://gist.github.com/alice/54108d8037f865876702b07755f771a5 |
| 13:38 | <annevk> | Alice: nice, I think AOM 192 is a non-starter, but the others are worth exploring further |
| 16:24 | <annevk> | Is GitHub really slow? |
| 16:24 | <Yagiz Nizipli> | Is GitHub really slow? |
| 22:20 | <nolanlawson> | Alice: nice, I think AOM 192 is a non-starter, but the others are worth exploring further Just to confirm: AOM192 is a non-starter in terms of the proposal to have open and closed shadow roots behave differently, right? https://github.com/WICG/aom/issues/192#issuecomment-1132237093 I know there were similar concerns around getInnerHTML (DSD) and elementtiming:
Today in AOM though we discussed maybe having an API where you can pass in an array of shadow roots. If the API doesn't distinguish between closed and open shadow roots, maybe this has legs? |