09:39
<freddy>
I clicked on "Approve and Run" for the HTTPS Upgrades Pull Request at least 3 times this week. At which point can I add this to my CV?
09:39
<freddy>
(Happy about the progress btw! Really excited for this coming together)
09:58
<Domenic>

annevk: keithamus: starting from https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9851#issuecomment-1765614088 ... I can live with parenthesis, but the following options all seem a bit nicer to me:

  • My split table
  • My split table with the keywords as th (and update all other tables to have the keywords as th)
  • Use CSS tricks to right-align "(non-conforming)" everywhere
  • Separate "Conforming" column, maybe?
10:05
<keithamus>
The css-right-align option seems useful for improving aesthetics without compromising on AT readability. I also am happy with the separate conforming column assuming that we're only aiming to add this column to tables which have some non-conforming attributes (i.e. we don't have an empty column on half the tables).
10:05
<Domenic>
Yep, that was my idea
10:07
<keithamus>
Should there be an additional note on those tables explaining what conforming means? Or perhaps there is a concept the heading can link to?
10:08
<Domenic>
Throughout the spec we seem to use "conforming" without any links, but we could link to https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#conformance-requirements-for-authors I guess
10:08
<annevk>
The only option I don't like is "My split table", the other 4 (including parenthesis in this number) seem good.
10:09
<annevk>
And thanks for raising it in the meeting keithamus.
10:11
<Domenic>
CSS right-align looked weird
10:12
<keithamus>
Extra column it is!
10:12
<Domenic>
Also... I think the rows are broken? The description rows don't line up with the keywords
10:12
<Domenic>
I guess default is missing a description row
10:14
<Domenic>
Summarized at https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9851#issuecomment-1814150780
10:40
<zcorpan>
https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9932#discussion_r1394563367 - do we have a general policy against changing dfn ids?
11:05
<smaug>
Noam Rosenthal: (I'm kind of on vacation) Saw the meeting minutes. Yes, I know there is a microtask bug in Gecko. I should fix it
11:06
<smaug>
What was the context for that discussion ?
11:06
<smaug>
(fix is to remove one line)
11:08
<Noam Rosenthal>
smaug: oh interesting. can you share the bug URL when you're not kind of on vacation? :)
I raised it because it came to me from a web developer and I wasn't sure if it's a spec bug or a Gecko bug.
11:10
<smaug>
I think it is basically a leftover from pre-webidl times. Microtasks were implemented just before new bindings in Gecko, IIRC (2012 or so).
11:12
<smaug>
Noam Rosenthal: but do you have a testcase, so that I can be sure it is about the same issue
11:13
<Noam Rosenthal>
smaug: they're working on a minimal reproducible case, will pass it along
11:14
<smaug>
sounds great, thanks
11:18
<annevk>
Enjoy your vacation smaug!
12:28
<canadahonk>
Curious, where are meeting minutes now? (I looked in whatwg/sg but nothing from 2023?)
13:51
<Noam Rosenthal>
There's a Google Doc with the minutes, not sure who's admin to share it etc. Panos Astithas ?
13:59
<zcorpan>
Shouldn't it be public? Looks like it's not, but not sure if it's intentional
14:01
<Noam Rosenthal>
I think so too, not sure either and didn't want to assume
14:02
<annevk>
The minutes are copied into the issues, which are still managed by whatwg/html. The document is mainly for those attending the meeting.