| 01:11 | <Domenic> | No working mode changes were done. They started citing WHATWG work before RDs existed. RDs were necessary to get them to stop forking DOM and HTML, but they cited Fetch and URL and others before any of that. |
| 01:28 | <Domenic> | Streams too maybe |
| 07:13 | <annevk> | sideshowbarker: could you perhaps review the conformance aspects of https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10548? It's not entirely clear to me they are unambiguous. In particular for selectedcontent it's a bit weird. It can appear in phrasing content, but only when there's an ancestor button element which has a parent select element, I think? I don't think there's any kind of precedent for that in the specification, so maybe it'll just be weird for a while until we get a better grip on it... |
| 07:35 | <sideshowbarker> | sideshowbarker: could you perhaps review the conformance aspects of https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10548? It's not entirely clear to me they are unambiguous. In particular for |
| 07:41 | <gogo> | Thanks yeah I'll take a look. But maybe not til early next week. (I have to be at what's basically a local member-recruiting event all day today and tomorrow.) But as far as precedents, I think it's possible we do actually have some — maybe not in HTML itself, but instead in the ARIA specs, which has some particular document/authoring-conformance requirements that are significantly more baroque than anything in HTML (including ones that require looking up the ancestor tree). |
| 07:42 | <sideshowbarker> | Sorry, I don't know what you're asking me |
| 08:00 | <annevk> | sideshowbarker: thank you! I think it's also okay if it happens later and we address it post-landing if you're particularly busy, but waiting until early next week seems fine to me. |
| 08:01 | <annevk> | Hope the event has some decent snacks. 😊 |
| 08:13 | <sideshowbarker> | Hey, I can't join the WHATNOT meeting today, but a topic for those here and also for those who are attending: By the 20th, I need to request room for us (WHATWG) to meet at TPAC. So, I need to specify: - How many days we want to meet (e.g., one day, or two days, or half a day, or 1.5 days, or whatever - Which days we prefer: Monday+Tuesday or Thursday+Friday |
| 08:17 | <sideshowbarker> | And FYI one additional complication for this year is that they're going to have an additional one-hour slot on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday for breakout sessions: > During TPAC 2024 we scheduled 14 breakouts in parallel in each of 6 slots. Our goal for TPAC 2025 is to schedule only 10 breakouts in parallel. Because we expect receiving 80-90 session proposals, we are organizing 9 1-hour slots during the week as follows (all times Japan): - Monday: 17:00-18:00 - Tuesday: 08:30-09:30 - Wednesday: 6 1-hour slots between 08:30 and 18:30 - Thursday: 17:00-18:00 |
| 08:18 | <sideshowbarker> | And incidentally for the WPT project, I also need to make the same kind of request, by the 20th |
| 08:21 | <annevk> | sideshowbarker: It doesn't seem like WHATNOT is happening today (it had ended by the time I remembered to join, anyway). I think we should ask for two days given the number of topics last year. If an hour is taken away here or there that seems fine. |
| 08:26 | <Domenic> | It ended after 15 minutes, we only had one issue basically and it was me plus three Mozilla people. |
| 08:28 | <smaug> | two days for WHATWG at TPAC sounds good to me. |