| 07:04 | <Noam Rosenthal> | whoever was wondering or didn't remember, APAC/EMEA WHATNOT is going ahead as planned today (in a little less than an hour) |
| 08:22 | <keithamus> | https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#attr-associated-element 3.1 & 3.2 is the issue, I believe. |
| 08:23 | <keithamus> | (Around attr associated elements cross shadow root not working) |
| 08:25 | <Luke Warlow> | Here's a jsfiddle to demonstrate that not working too: https://jsfiddle.net/m0x5enay/ |
| 08:52 | <smaug> | Isn't commandForElement broken. That is not a content attribute, so how does the reflect part even work? |
| 08:53 | <Luke Warlow> | Can you clarify what you mean? commandForElement reflects the commandfor content attribute? |
| 08:53 | <smaug> | I'm trying to find where that is defined |
| 08:55 | <Luke Warlow> | Huh, yeah you're right. It's msising the string in the Reflect |
| 08:55 | <Luke Warlow> | I'll make a PR to fix that |
| 09:03 | <smaug> | popoverTargetElement similarly broken |
| 09:03 | <Luke Warlow> | https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/12762 |
| 09:06 | <smaug> | hmm, is ="<value>" correct syntax, or should it be =<value> |
| 09:06 | <Luke Warlow> | The syntax is to use strings there rather than idents |
| 09:06 | <smaug> | ah |
| 09:07 | <Luke Warlow> | The syntax highlighter doesn't yet handle it very well unfortunately I need to take some time to look into that better. The parsers did get updated. |
| 09:08 | <smaug> | PutForwards uses ident. Weird inconsistency |
| 09:15 | <Luke Warlow> | That was a suggestion from Domenic iirc. We could always change it in future if we wanted to as it's not actually web observable. |
| 09:16 | <smaug> | sure |
| 09:17 | <Luke Warlow> | That being said I think for the enumerated attribute stuff that I want to do eventually we do need to use strings as idents don't cover all attribute value syntax. |
| 09:17 | <smaug> | yeah, could be |
| 10:01 | <smaug> | FWIW, I think the getter part was discussed here. It is a bit weird that setting the property somehow just gets eaten - when trying to get it, one gets null. And on the other hand if one sets any random expando property, that would happily leak the shadow node. (and now I need to check if I commented in that issue and said something opposite I'm saying now 🙂 ) |
| 15:01 | <Dominic Farolino> | Do we have a policy against hyphens in fetch destinations? Things like serviceworker and paintworklet make sense to me because they're a single term everywhere in the platform. Anne and I got pinged about email-verification in https://github.com/WICG/email-verification/issues/45#issuecomment-5052363748. I personally don't see an issue, but could be missing some style policy. |
| 15:03 | <smaug> | aha, no openui/whatwg even though it is in the calendar? |
| 15:04 | <smaug> | (but the issue says Aug 20) |
| 15:04 | <dbaron> | It's the CSSWG face-to-face having a joint-meeting-relevant session about styling of customizable select |
| 15:04 | <dbaron> | dialin info at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2026JulSep/0095.html |
| 15:05 | <smaug> | Any specific agenda? |
| 15:05 | <dbaron> | issue is a presentation of https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/14256 |
| 15:05 | <smaug> | dbaron: main or breakout? |
| 15:05 | <dbaron> | main |
| 15:06 | <smaug> | thanks |
| 15:44 | <River> | I also believe that the point of good defaults is to make it accessible by default not just to make it look better, when people see something that doesn't feel natural, they are more likely to change it, and possibly make something more inaccessable. |
| 15:45 | <River> | (apologies if this is unrequited from my side) |
| 22:09 | <River> | I do want to say, it was lovely meeting the CSSWG group in person and to witness how the CSS language improves itself. The demos were a wonderful experience, and a look at an aspect of mob programming, for spec improvements was incredible. It's a vast difference from startup culture. I think I have learnt much, and I am going to try to contribute to different specifications in the web (or just complain more about them!) as I tend to feel them more with my work :) |