| 07:49 | <Tobie Langel> | hey folks, pr-preview is back up, but I need you to issue new AWS credentials for the S3 bucket that's behind whatpr.org |
| 07:53 | <Tobie Langel> | And I realize this could look like social engineering to fish for credentials, so I'll ask whoever is able to get them to reach me using another channel. |
| 07:53 | <zcorpan> | foolip: ^ |
| 07:53 | <Tobie Langel> | (I believe at least annevk has my phone number.) |
| 07:56 | <foolip> | I will forward this to the person now paying for the S3 bucket. |
| 07:59 | <Tobie Langel> | In the meantime, I can put you back on the main S3 bucket. What do you prefer? |
| 08:04 | <annevk> | I think we can wait until this is fixed. Tantek has access to the account. |
| 08:05 | <annevk> | cc Tantek |
| 08:08 | <Tobie Langel> | Sorry this whole thing took so long. Timing of the outage couldn't have been worse on my end. |
| 08:13 | <annevk> | Luke Warlow freddy Frédéric: when I looked through https://github.com/w3c/trusted-types/pull/606 it largely seemed fine, but I was curious what you all think about these things:
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| 08:14 | <Tobie Langel> | The apps are now hosted with a new service provider and the repos are in a dedicated GH org. |
| 08:15 | <Tobie Langel> | It would be good to discuss longer terms plans for these services once the outage is fully behind us. |
| 08:16 | <Tobie Langel> | W3C offered to take over Specref but seems only mildly interested in supporting PR Preview long term. |
| 08:17 | <Ms2ger> | That's too bad |
| 08:23 | <annevk> | Tobie Langel: no worries, hope all is well! And yes, figuring out a longer-term plan would be good. I wonder if we can migrate it to CI somehow. (For which we don't really have a sustainable solution either, but it's unlikely it'll completely disappear.) |
| 08:25 | <zcorpan> | annevk: empty poster was discussed in https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6636#issuecomment-2610027765 + next few comments. Do you think the feature-testing by currentPoster changes it enough to reconsider empty poster? |
| 08:35 | <annevk> | Yeah, Jake Archibald pointed that out at the time too. I don't think we gave it enough consideration. Interesting to see that even <poster> was considered. |
| 08:36 | <Luke Warlow> | 1. I guess it depends what the future plans with XML are. I think leaving it as just TrustedParserOptions is probably fine, but not strong either way. 2. I agree they seem largely pointless but also it's already there on the existing interfaces and I don't think it matters too much. Nic opened an issue around making them immutable in some way. |
| 08:37 | <zcorpan> | Can you comment in https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10378 ? |
| 09:07 | <Noam Rosenthal> | cannot trust because someone can mangle the prototypes? |
| 09:16 | <Noam Rosenthal> | I also don't mind removing the API for now. It's easier to add it later than to remove it |
| 09:21 | <Noam Rosenthal> | Perhaps TrustedHTMLParserOptions is more explicit about it currently not supporting XML... I don't mind changing it |
| 09:24 | <annevk> | Yes prototypes can be mangled. If nicolo-ribaudo wants them trusted it’s probably better to not expose anything for now. |
| 09:43 | <Noam Rosenthal> | renamed to TrustedHTMLParserOptions without members. We can add interface members for it in the future after we figure out the mangling thing for TrustedHTML |
| 10:05 | <smaug> | zcorpan: annevk remind me, where are we with ORB and getting that to the spec? |
| 10:27 | <zcorpan> | smaug: https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/1755 needs an edit to HTML. I can try to fix it this week |
| 10:30 | <zcorpan> | smaug: that also links to https://github.com/annevk/orb/labels/mvp |
| 11:44 | <Tobie Langel> | https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2026JulSep/0006.html |
| 11:46 | <Tobie Langel> | Update to the specprod mailing list and link to the GH issues on deciding what's next long term for these services. |
| 12:04 | <annevk> | smaug: I think Google & Mozilla ended up not quite following the specification and nobody wrote up what you all did instead? |
| 12:06 | <Tobie Langel> | FYI, it sounds like W3C is planning to host their own PR Preview moving forward: https://github.com/specinfra/pr-preview/pull/209 |
| 12:53 | <smaug> | farre might be able to tell all the required tweaks (required because of webcompat) |
| 12:56 | <farre> | yep, I should be able to assist |