04:07
<Hixie>
wow, i just specced popup blocking without using the word "popup" or "blocking".
04:07
<Hixie>
didn't even realise it until i was done
04:28
<jdandrea>
Hixie: How'd you pull that one off? Nice.
04:29
<Hixie>
last bit of http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-windows.html
04:29
<jdandrea>
Thx
04:30
<jdandrea>
I find that choosing good words/names/etc. is one of the hardest (and most important) things you can do, hence my interest. Reading ...
04:31
<Hixie>
no guarentee the words are well chosen!
04:31
<jdandrea>
's OK. It's a start.
04:31
<Hixie>
it's about iteration 50 of this particular section
04:31
<Hixie>
i keep rewriting it to make it better
04:32
<Hixie>
still not overly happy with it
04:32
<Hixie>
but it'll do for now
04:52
mpt
is unfortunately reminded of the checkbox label "Let Web pages ... [/] Open new windows by themselves"
04:53
<mpt>
Quite possibly the least understandable interface design I ever perpetrated
04:54
<mpt>
Hixie, "auxillary" -> "auxiliary"
04:55
<jdandrea>
In 4.1.2 - ah.
04:55
<jdandrea>
I'm just about to get to the good stuff. :)
05:03
<jdandrea>
Hixie: Nice. As for the wording, it's consistent with the rest of 4.1.3 rule 5. I like the use of auxiliary as well.
05:19
annevk
wonders if the rest of the world is asleep right now
05:25
<Hixie>
mpt: thanks, will try to remember to fix that
05:50
annevk
wonders if it's ok to give the same presentation, albeit modified, twice
05:51
<othermaciej>
if in different venues, sure
05:52
<annevk>
I'd like to make the one I just gave public
05:52
<annevk>
oh well, I'll just do it
06:00
<annevk>
FYI: http://www.w3.org/mid/op.tqwwnwan64w2qv@id-c0020 (presentation on HTML5 I gave today at QUT)
07:02
<othermaciej>
every time I've spoken in person to one or more Microsoft employees I ended up with a headache
07:02
<othermaciej>
I wonder if there is a pattern there
07:02
<Hixie>
really?
07:03
<othermaciej>
well, it's only a sample space of 3
07:03
<Hixie>
do you get headaches often unrelatd to meeting microsoft employees?
07:04
<othermaciej>
sometimes, but not that often
07:06
<Hixie>
my recommendation: get more data
07:06
<othermaciej>
I'm not sure its worth it for the information value alone
07:07
<othermaciej>
*it's
07:14
<annevk>
I never had a headache before in relation to Microsoft employees
07:15
<othermaciej>
I think I might be allergic to Microsoft
09:29
<KevinMarks>
yay, my t-shirt came
09:29
<KevinMarks>
http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=108788
11:12
<nickshanks>
"5 > 2" ?
11:22
<hsivonen>
wow. a SEO spammer or SEO spammers have picked up liorean's future of the web article and Google is happily informing me about all the bogus blogs that contain a copy of the article
11:35
<Hixie>
hsivonen: which query?
11:54
<hsivonen>
Hixie: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?hl=en&q=link:blog.whatwg.org&filter=0&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=atom
11:54
<Hixie>
thanks
14:41
<krijnh>
Anybody in here know a way to style active links in Opera?
14:42
<krijnh>
Active in the way you navigate to them with Shift + Arrows
14:43
<krijnh>
:focus only works when you hover an active anchor
14:44
<citoyen>
Theoretically :focus, though the styling is hidden by the selected text
14:44
zcorpan
got his t-shirt today
14:44
<krijnh>
citoyen: It works with an outline, but only once you hover the selected element
14:45
<citoyen>
Yeah, known
14:45
<krijnh>
K
14:50
<krijnh>
zcorpan: congrats btw ;)
15:30
<Dashiva>
Hixie: What's the reasoning for the void Table.delete* methods, rather than (e.g.) Table.remove* which return the removed element?
15:35
<zcorpan_>
krijnh: thanks
17:50
<zcorpan_>
http://shadow2531.com/opera/testcases/mht/000.mht the background doesn't cover the canvas in opera
17:51
<zcorpan_>
should it?
18:00
<hasather>
zcorpan_: yea, that looks like a bug
18:01
zcorpan_
won't report it, though
18:03
<zcorpan_>
what's with people wanting to change element names?
18:03
zcorpan_
hates naming
18:10
<Philip`>
The background appears to cover the canvas of the document which it's the background of - but that document is in an <object> inside the page that's actually being displayed, and the object doesn't fill that page
18:12
<hasather>
Philip`: ahh, you're right, didn't check that
18:13
<zcorpan_>
so that you can have multiple html pages after each other?
18:15
<zcorpan_>
makes sense
22:14
zcorpan_
goes to add a subforum
22:49
<zcorpan_>
http://forums.whatwg.org/viewforum.php?f=3