| 00:02 | zcorpan | wonders if the tool would work better in ie if some script from dean edwards was applied |
| 00:03 | <zcorpan> | like "ie7" or base2 or something -- i haven't looked closely at either script nor the tool |
| 00:04 | <Hixie> | given that as far as i can tell it's not inconveniencing any actual users, i don't see much point in making the page less standards compliant |
| 00:06 | Hixie | gens a version of the spec with three extra elements (without defining them yet) |
| 00:07 | takkaria | sighs at twitter for being crap |
| 00:07 | <Hixie> | twitter's so unreliable |
| 00:07 | <Hixie> | is there another system that also supports IM, sms, and rest api interaction? |
| 00:07 | <Hixie> | meeting. bbl. |
| 00:08 | <takkaria> | for free? I doubt it |
| 00:09 | <Philip`> | From a position of knowing exactly nothing about it, <nest> sounds like a fairly ambiguous name |
| 00:24 | <Dashiva> | So is it only IEx that doesn't support the issues page, or are other browsers (possibly older versions) also unable to use it? |
| 00:27 | <zcorpan> | jgraham: nice with the table inspector. i might look into writing test pages with tables that we like the algorithm to work with -- based on ben's research -- so we can do rapid prototyping of alternative algorithms |
| 00:33 | <Philip`> | Dashiva: The voting doesn't really work in Konqueror |
| 00:33 | <Philip`> | (It does count the vote, but doesn't update the screen after voting) |
| 00:38 | <Philip`> | (So, uh, I suppose that means the voting does really work, but it just has cosmetic issues) |
| 00:48 | <Dashiva> | Gonna have to set up a local server proxy for the listen and whatnot, I suppose... where are those cross-domain auth specs when you need them |
| 05:30 | <MikeSmith> | wondering if anybody may have looked at the OpenAjax "Hub" spec and have any thoughts on it |
| 05:30 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.openajax.org/OpenAjax%20Hub.html |
| 05:31 | <MikeSmith> | in particular: |
| 05:31 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.openajax.org/OpenAjax%20Hub.html#Example |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | [[ |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | To make the application work, the developer registers a callback function that is invoked whenever the user selects a new date in the calendar widget. This callback function then broadcasts the new date event using the OpenAjax Hub's publish() function: |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | ]] |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | [[ |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | Then the developer includes code such that each chart widget and data grid widget subscribes to the new date event and provides a callback function. The various callback functions then update the given visualization widget appropriately: |
| 05:32 | <MikeSmith> | ]] |
| 05:33 | <MikeSmith> | [[ |
| 05:33 | <MikeSmith> | The Hub's key feature is its publish/subscribe manager (the "pub/sub manager"). The pub/sub manager allows one part of a mashup to broadcast an event to which other application components subscribe. |
| 05:33 | <MikeSmith> | ]] |
| 19:36 | Dashiva | ponders the "structured options" email. |
| 19:44 | Philip` | wonders why white-space:pre doesn't work in <select>s in any browser |
| 19:44 | <Philip`> | (Is that a bug?) |
| 19:47 | <zcorpan> | a lot of stuff don't work with <select>s or form controls in general |
| 19:47 | <Philip`> | (Thinking of http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?%3C%21DOCTYPE%20html%3E%0A%3Cselect%20style%3D%22font-family%3A%20monospace%3B%20white-space%3A%20pre%22%3E%0A%3Coption%20value%3D%221%22%3E4302WW%20%7C%20Red%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7C%20%A310.99%0A%3Coption%20value%3D%222%22%3E2915II%20%7C%20Turquoise%20%7C%20%A310.99%0A%3C/select%3E in particular) |
| 19:48 | <Philip`> | Um, if anyone knows why that causes "Service Temporarily Unavailable", I'd be happy to find out |
| 19:51 | <Philip`> | Hixie: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?%7C%20%20%7C says "Service Temporarily Unavailable" which is peculiar |
| 19:51 | <Philip`> | Anyway, I was thinking of http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/dom-viewer/?%3C%21DOCTYPE%20html%3E%0D%0A%3Cselect%20style%3D%22font-family%3A%20monospace%3B%20white-space%3A%20pre%22%3E%0D%0A%3Coption%20value%3D%221%22%3E4302WW%20%7C%20Red%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7C%20%A310.99%0D%0A%3Coption%20value%3D%222%22%3E2915II%20%7C%20Turquoise%20%7C%20%A310.99%0D%0A%3C/select%3E |
| 19:53 | <zcorpan> | Philip`: encoding problem with the dead viewer? |
| 19:54 | <zcorpan> | http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/dom-viewer/reflect.cgi?%u263A for ☺ |
| 19:55 | <Philip`> | Yes, but I don't know where since I tried to make everything just use UTF-8 |
| 19:55 | <Philip`> | Oh, that won't work because the CGI program only understands %xx values |
| 19:55 | <zcorpan> | indeed, but that's what the js sends |
| 19:56 | <zcorpan> | it should send %E2%98%BA instead |
| 19:56 | <Philip`> | In FF3 it sends %A3 |
| 19:56 | <Philip`> | (as far as I can see) |
| 19:56 | <Philip`> | (Uh, for £ symbols at least) |
| 19:57 | <zcorpan> | yeah, opera too |
| 19:58 | <zcorpan> | it's escape() |
| 19:59 | <zcorpan> | use encodeURIComponent() instead |
| 20:00 | <Philip`> | Oh, never heard of that before |
| 20:00 | <zcorpan> | and decodeURIComponent() instead of unescape() |
| 20:03 | <Philip`> | http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/dom-viewer/?%C3%A6%E2%80%9D%C2%A2%C3%B0e%C4%91%C5%8B%C4%A7%E2%86%92j%C4%B8%C5%82%C2%B5n%C3%B8%C3%BE%40%C2%B6%C3%9F%C5%A7%E2%86%93%E2%80%9C%C5%82%C2%BB%E2%86%90%C2%AB |
| 20:03 | <Philip`> | Seems to work - thanks :-) |
| 20:04 | <Philip`> | http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/dom-viewer/x.html?%3Chtml%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2Fxhtml%22%3E%C3%A6%E2%80%9D%C2%A2%C3%B0e%C4%91%C5%8B%C4%A7%E2%86%92j%C4%B8%C5%82%C2%B5n%C3%B8%C3%BE%40%C2%B6%C3%9F%C5%A7%E2%86%93%E2%80%9C%C5%82%C2%BB%E2%86%90%C2%AB%3C%2Fhtml%3E - seems to work too |
| 20:16 | <gsnedders> | so the majority of HTML WG email was technical email (7/9ths of it was), so I stay |
| 20:31 | Retrieving | #whatwg modes... |
| 20:34 | <Philip`> | Do any browsers sniff text/plain content differently to unlabelled content? (I'm wondering how many web sites would break when upgrading to an Apache that doesn't send Content-Type: text/plain by default) |
| 21:08 | <Dashiva> | Philip`: I wouldn't expect any intentional differences, but perhaps that some forget to do parts of the sniffing because there hasn't been a need yet |
| 21:18 | gsnedders_ | wonders how risky it'd be to ship the HTML 5 type sniffing |