| 00:00 | <bradee-oh> | Hixie++ (for multipage being back up) |
| 00:00 | <Hixie> | heh |
| 00:00 | <Hixie> | i didn't realise the multipage page had a hardcoded reference to the script at the end of the spec |
| 00:00 | <Hixie> | so when i removed it... |
| 00:47 | <Hixie> | anyone heard of http://www.digistan.org/ ? |
| 00:47 | <hober> | nop |
| 00:48 | <hober> | *nope |
| 01:48 | Hixie | begins annotating the spec |
| 02:26 | <Hixie> | i wonder how to show the scope |
| 02:27 | <Hixie> | the scope of one of these annotations is from the header it's attached to, to either the next annotation or the next header of the same rank, whichever comes first |
| 02:40 | <Philip`> | Like some kind of vertical line in the margin extending to the end of the scope? |
| 05:10 | <Hixie> | Philip`: yeah, can't see how to do that without moving nodes around (which would mess up the code that works out what header to use) |
| 14:06 | <Philip`> | Bah, Links doesn't support <xmp> |
| 15:35 | <inimino> | Hixie: the link from the multi-page version to index-diff is a 404 |
| 15:39 | anne-mac | wonders why the multipage version has a separate status.js |
| 15:51 | <Philip`> | Hixie: The opacity:0.05 on NONE status icons seems a bit low - on my screen I can't even see there's an icon there, unless I change my viewing angle so the screen colours get all distorted and then I can make out the shapes |
| 15:51 | <Philip`> | 0.1 is a bit too faint too; 0.2 appears to work best for me |
| 15:52 | <Philip`> | Oh, then it conflicts with the "not fully supported" state |
| 15:55 | <Philip`> | I suppose the 0.05 is actually visible if I move my head low enough, so maybe it's just my screen's fault |
| 17:18 | gsnedders | wonders why there is a login box on the spec now |
| 17:18 | <Dashiva> | annotations |
| 17:19 | <gsnedders> | ah. |
| 17:34 | <Lachy> | I can't figure out how the annotations thing works. I registered an account, but there doesn't seem to be anything else in the document for adding annotations. |
| 17:35 | <krijnh> | I get status . |
| 17:35 | <Dashiva> | Check your error console? :) |
| 17:36 | <krijnh> | Ah, cool |
| 17:37 | <Philip`> | Lachy: Double click on the annotation boxes to edit, or double click somewhere else to add new annotations |
| 17:37 | <krijnh> | Lachy: double cli.. |
| 17:37 | krijnh | slaps Philip` with a trout |
| 17:37 | <Dashiva> | Is it the same login as the issues list? |
| 17:37 | Philip` | wins |
| 17:37 | <krijnh> | :) |
| 17:41 | <Lachy> | Dashiva, I don't think so. The issues list login uses email address, this uses a username |
| 17:43 | <gsnedders> | Forums/blog login works |
| 17:45 | <gsnedders> | (not sure which) |
| 17:45 | <Dashiva> | My forum blog didn't. Probably blog then. |
| 17:45 | <krijnh> | Can we all put our own links to demos in there? |
| 17:45 | <gsnedders> | You don't seem to be able to annotate something which is just marked as a "section" |
| 17:48 | <Lachy> | we're probably going to get complaints about accessibility of the annotation script, since it seems impossible to add an annotation without double clicking |
| 17:48 | <krijnh> | Nah, can't think of anyone who would :) |
| 17:49 | <annevk> | if it's blog login then I've access to the blog now |
| 17:50 | <Lachy> | if it's the blog login, then I just registered a new account with the same username |
| 17:50 | <krijnh> | ERROR: Invalid username. |
| 17:50 | <krijnh> | Prolly not the same thing then |
| 17:50 | <gsnedders> | Very odd. I just used the login I've used elsewhere on the WHATWG site. |
| 17:51 | <Lachy> | I doubt Hixie would be messing around with the username table in the wordpress database |
| 17:51 | <Dashiva> | gsnedders: Maybe you were pre-added as a test |
| 17:51 | gsnedders | blames Hixie |
| 17:51 | <krijnh> | Are there any guidelines on annotating somewhere? |
| 17:53 | <krijnh> | Or should everybody just randomly add stuff everywhere? |
| 17:53 | <Dashiva> | krijnh: let me fetch the quote |
| 17:53 | <Dashiva> | <Hixie> Philip`: i think having it non-intuitive is ok, the people who should be editing it can be told what the ui is |
| 17:54 | <krijnh> | Ah |
| 17:54 | <krijnh> | I probably shouldn't be editing then ;) |
| 17:55 | <gsnedders> | I just mucked around with various possible reasons how you might annotate something :) |
| 17:56 | gsnedders | sighs |
| 17:56 | <gsnedders> | I actually have a scroll bar in Mail.app for all my mailboxes :( |
| 17:58 | <Lachy> | the issues list says "Error loading the folder list: Internal Server Error. Let Hixie know." - Does he know already? |
| 18:01 | <annevk> | i think we could put some simple guidelines on the wiki |
| 18:01 | <annevk> | Lachy, probably not |
| 18:29 | <annevk> | http://www.kliper.nl/verschillen_tussen_html5_en_html.html |
| 18:30 | <annevk> | tekst loopt niet erg lekker |
| 18:30 | <annevk> | en Opera Software is vertaald :) |
| 18:30 | <Dashiva> | The text does not run smoothly, and Opera Software has been informed |
| 18:33 | <annevk> | vertaald = translated |
| 18:34 | <annevk> | ah, http://www.kliper.nl/blog_HTML5-verschillen_Verschillen_tussen_HTML4.htm says it's been machine translated |
| 18:37 | <Dashiva> | It's always partly hit-and-miss with dutch |
| 18:37 | annevk | has that with Norwegian |
| 18:51 | <krijnh> | Hehe |
| 18:52 | <krijnh> | <bed in> is het specifieke element voor plugininhoud |
| 18:52 | <krijnh> | :D |
| 22:27 | <Philip`> | Hixie: If I was going to bother adding stuff to the spec annotations, would I have to add five hundreds links to tests in the "Links to tests for this section" bit? |
| 22:28 | <Philip`> | Also, I expect "partial+buggy" would be a more accurate status option than the current choices in most cases |
| 22:28 | <annevk> | no |
| 22:29 | <Dashiva> | partial and/or buggy :) |
| 22:33 | <Philip`> | "The latest release version of %s passes all the available test cases for this feature." is vacuously true for many features since there are zero test cases - maybe there should be another option for "this feature is supported but there are not enough test cases to judge the quality of support" |
| 22:36 | Philip` | needs to remember to update his tests so that Opera 9.5 no longer gets a PASS for getImageData |
| 22:37 | <annevk> | how do we fail? |
| 22:38 | <Philip`> | Hixie: In Firefox 2, after I open the annotation thingy and click "Cancel", the space bar stops working for scrolling down the screen |
| 22:38 | annevk | sees no bug report |
| 22:39 | <Philip`> | annevk: .data is a CanvasPixelDataArray or something, and not an Array, so when somebody does getImageData(...).data.join(',') then it dies, like in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=291126 |
| 22:41 | <Dashiva> | Philip`: You should make that test use a single line for the problematic statement. The .join() doesn't even show in the console error :) |
| 22:43 | <Philip`> | That test isn't mine, so I can't do much to it :-) |
| 22:44 | <Philip`> | Actually, I could, since I could just modify it and upload a new version; but it's not meant to be testing getImageData anyway |