| 00:33 | <Philip`> | Hmm, I need to go on holiday instead of continuing the alt discussion - what a dreadful shame :-( |
| 00:39 | <Philip`> | http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ - <meta name="DCTERMS.modified" content="2076-02-12T12:00:00Z" /> - yay for metadata |
| 00:43 | <Philip`> | (And DCTERMS.modified doesn't even exist, according to the declared schema) |
| 00:50 | eseidel | wonders if anyone is interested in a theoretical discussion about <canvas> patterns? :) |
| 00:50 | <eseidel> | http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#createpattern |
| 00:51 | <eseidel> | Safari's current behavior is slightly differnet from the spec, in that if an image is still loading off the network when createPattern is called with an HTMLImageElement parameter, the pattern will draw the image when it's finally loaded |
| 00:51 | <eseidel> | it will even draw it in incremental states :) |
| 00:51 | eseidel | should really email the list |
| 01:00 | <Philip`> | eseidel: That sounds unpleasantly unpredictable |
| 01:00 | <eseidel> | Philip`: yeah, I'm gonna change iet to make a copy |
| 01:00 | <eseidel> | Philip`, Hixie: but i sent a note to the whatwg list all the same |
| 01:00 | <eseidel> | this will now force web authors to listen for image load evnets |
| 01:00 | <eseidel> | which they might be doing anyway |
| 01:00 | <Philip`> | I think the spec just says it should throw an exception on createPattern if it's not complete |
| 01:01 | <eseidel> | If the image argument is an HTMLImageElement object whose complete attribute is false, then the implementation must raise an INVALID_STATE_ERR exception. |
| 01:01 | <eseidel> | oh |
| 01:01 | <eseidel> | it does |
| 01:01 | <eseidel> | nm then |
| 01:01 | <Philip`> | "If the image argument is an HTMLImageElement object whose complete attribute is false, then the implementation must raise an INVALID_STATE_ERR exception." |
| 01:04 | <Philip`> | http://philip.html5.org/tests/canvas/suite/tests/results.html#2d.pattern.image.incomplete possibly isn't entirely helpful since it assumes new Image().complete == false (since the spec says so), which is untrue in reality |
| 08:43 | <heycam> | hsivonen, yt? |
| 09:30 | <hsivonen> | heycam: I am now. |
| 10:25 | <heycam> | hsivonen, was gonna ask: how come http://s.validator.nu/xhtml10/text.rnc removes xml:space from <pre>? |
| 10:26 | heycam | afk again |
| 10:31 | <hsivonen> | heycam: hmm. must be a bug |
| 10:33 | <hsivonen> | heycam: It's now a common attribute, isn't it? |
| 10:34 | <hsivonen> | hmm. it's not a common attribute. sigh |
| 10:50 | <jacobolus> | annevk: i'm a bit late here, but if you want a compact camera w/ a small lens, there is no way 10 Mpx will actually be useful (the extra data will be some combination of noise and blur) |
| 10:55 | <mcarter> | do any of the opera SSE implementations have a way to set the retry interval, like the current spec does? |
| 11:01 | <annevk> | mcarter, no |
| 11:01 | <annevk> | jacobolus, ok, thanks |
| 11:01 | <annevk> | jacobolus, I will most likely buy this model: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Panasonic/panasonic_dmctz5.asp |
| 11:02 | <mcarter> | annevk, does it (the application/x-dom-event-stream SSE) auto-reconnect when a response completes? |
| 11:03 | <annevk> | mcarter, it should, yes |
| 11:03 | <mcarter> | annevk, i don't suppose you recall if it does so immediately or not? |
| 11:03 | <jacobolus> | mcarter: I don't think so |
| 11:03 | <jacobolus> | mcarter: try it! :) |
| 11:04 | <annevk> | mcarter, what jacobolus said |
| 11:08 | <mcarter> | so it seems to reconnect automatically after a 5 second delay |
| 11:09 | <jacobolus> | really? did it do that in 8.x? huh. |
| 11:10 | <mcarter> | annevk, do you recall if there's a way to attach a trigger for when the stream completes, if i wanted to, for instance, remove the stream when the response completes? |
| 11:13 | <hsivonen> | heycam: hmm. My local copy works. For some reason, the deployment copy isn't pulling stuff from svn correctly or something, so you see a partial & broken "fix" |
| 11:13 | <hsivonen> | heycam: I'll investigate |
| 11:23 | <hsivonen> | heycam: fix deployed |
| 11:23 | <annevk> | mcarter, maybe use a special event that removes the stream? |
| 11:24 | <mcarter> | annevk, yeah, that works. But in the case of a network breakage it falls apart |
| 11:24 | <annevk> | mcarter, as in, the page registers a special listener for the "removestream" event and when it gets that from the server it kills the connection |
| 11:24 | <annevk> | mcarter, true |
| 11:24 | <hsivonen> | heycam: thanks |
| 13:37 | <hsivonen> | we should have a standard form for explaining why Web spec feature suggestions don't work like the Slashdot spam form (http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=623883&cid=24314727) |
| 15:05 | <heycam> | hsivonen, thanks |
| 16:54 | <takkaria> | I wonder if IE's authoratitive=true MIME header will disable sniffing on the charset too |
| 22:44 | <Hixie> | hsivonen: that form is pretty close already |
| 23:10 | <jcranmer> | how does the W3C moderation system work? First post is sent to moderator, and, if accepted, all subsequent posts go through? |
| 23:58 | <Lachy> | jcranmer, no. For their first post, they're sent a confirmation email asking them to manually agree for it and all subsequent mails to be archived. They probably have some sort of spam filter in place too. They do have list moderators, but most things are automated |