| 00:32 | <jwalden> | somebody in here should fix the note on <http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Web_ECMAScript>; about eval: a use of eval not called "eval" does not necessarily work according to ECMA-262 ed. 3; see section 16, and note that (mentally fixing borken spacing due to a half-broken PDF) "An i mpl ement at i on may t r eat any i nst ance of t he f ol l owi ng ki nds of r unt i me er r or s as a synt ax er r... |
| 00:32 | <jwalden> | ...or and therefore r epor t i t ear l y: • Usi ng t he eval propert y ot her t han vi a a di rect cal l ." |
| 00:32 | <jwalden> | var x = eval; // not a direct call |
| 00:32 | <Hixie> | it's a wiki, you are welcome to edit it :-) |
| 00:32 | <jwalden> | I don't think I have a login yet, and I'm preoccupied right now :-) |
| 01:54 | <Hixie> | crap, i don't know how to do multi-row selection in <datagrid> |
| 02:03 | <karlcow> | I'm using style attributes most of the time for very local and specific style rule (which font element doesn't cover). Such as modifying the style of an image for a one time. <img style="float:right;margin-left:1em;width:350px;" …/> I haven't found a better way of doing it. |
| 02:12 | <Hixie> | ok, <datagrid> mark II is now checked in |
| 02:12 | <Hixie> | i'm sure it has issues |
| 02:12 | <Hixie> | e.g. the content model makes no sense anymore |
| 09:00 | <jgraham> | jwalden: The point re: eval is that ES5 allows x = eval; x() to throw but browsers don't do that, they call something like eval but possibly in a different scope |
| 09:01 | <jgraham> | So it seems at least plausible that there are sites that rely on that not throwing |
| 09:23 | <zcorpan_> | "HTML 5 is at least as far off implementation as XHTML 2 is. There is nowhere near as much need to discuss XHTML 2 because it is a finished stable product just waiting to be implemented. It will probably be at least another 10 years (if ever) before HTML 5 reaches that same point." -- http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4226031#post4226031 |
| 09:47 | <zcorpan_> | Hixie: s/Either: Nothing./Either: Empty./ |
| 09:49 | zcorpan_ | wonders whether <datalist>foo<table></table></datalist> is allowed |
| 10:10 | <annevk2> | zcorpan_, that's a fun quote |
| 10:17 | gsnedders | is missing 5.85 |
| 10:17 | <gsnedders> | (GBP) |
| 10:29 | <zcorpan_> | hmm, maybe the last argument to addColumn() should be *in*visible? it's weird when absent argument is the same as true |
| 11:10 | <takkaria> | zcorpan_: hmm, interesting thread |
| 11:10 | <takkaria> | apparently "it is impossible to write documents about Julius Cesar, Moses or dinosaurs using HTML 5" on teh third thread |
| 11:13 | <takkaria> | *third page |
| 11:41 | <gsnedders> | Hmm, breakfast is starting to be rather tempting |
| 14:17 | gsnedders | slaps last.fm for having no pause button |
| 15:04 | <takkaria> | if the HTTP WG care more about theoretical purity than having people actually implement the spec as written, they should rename the Referer header Referrer |
| 15:09 | <Philip`> | takkaria: But that would break non-browser UAs, which is unacceptable |
| 15:09 | <Philip`> | (Browsers deserve to be broken because they ignore the current specs anyway) |
| 20:34 | <annevk2> | hmm, can you post arbitrary HTML to www-archive? |
| 20:34 | <annevk2> | if you then slip such a link to a W3C Member you can presumably read all kinds of information from Member only pages |
| 20:34 | <annevk2> | seems dangerous |
| 20:36 | <Philip`> | annevk2: I guess it would be contained within lists.w3.org, and you couldn't access www.w3.org? |
| 20:37 | <Philip`> | (but it seems nobody has cared to fix http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2009Mar/0005.html so you can access Member-only pages on www.w3.org anyway) |
| 20:53 | <annevk2> | Philip`, there is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/ |
| 21:07 | <annevk2> | "Seven Things You Probably Don't Know About Me"... hmm |
| 21:08 | <annevk2> | 1. I stopped doing memes. 2-7. See 1. Harharhar. |
| 21:09 | <gsnedders> | :P |
| 21:09 | <annevk2> | What would be the appropriate markup for such a list? |
| 21:10 | <gsnedders> | <ol><li value=1>I stopped doing memes.<li min=2 max=7>See 1.</ol><p>Harharhar. |
| 21:10 | <gsnedders> | (I know that doesn't work.) |
| 21:10 | <gsnedders> | For those who don't read what I blog within two minutes: http://gsnedders.com/seven-things-you-probably-dont-know-about-me |
| 21:10 | <Philip`> | <p>1. I stopped doing memes. 2-7. See 1. Harharhar.</p> |
| 21:15 | <annevk2> | http://bitworking.org/news/425/atompub-is-a-failure he's blaming browsers in a non-negative way; that's new |
| 21:29 | Philip` | might be more interested in AtomPub if he actually had any idea what it was |
| 21:29 | <Philip`> | I must have read dozens of blog posts talking about it, and I still have no idea |
| 21:33 | <annevk2> | it's a protocol to manipulate content over HTTP |
| 21:33 | gsnedders | needs to stop doing pointless Facebook quizzes |
| 21:36 | <annevk2> | Philip`, if that is too abstract you might just want to read the spec: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023 |
| 21:36 | <Philip`> | HTTP is a protocol that lets me manipulate content over HTTP :-) |
| 21:37 | <Philip`> | annevk2: I think that's a bit too concrete |
| 21:38 | <annevk2> | Philip`, get over it |
| 21:44 | <sayrer> | Philip`: it's just a way to sequence certain kinds of HTTP requests. A protocol, if you will. |
| 21:50 | gsnedders | wonders how to not panic at the prospect of a phone interview |
| 21:50 | <Dashiva> | Talk to strangers on the phone in advance |
| 21:50 | <Dashiva> | Have your friends prank call you at random times of day to answer questions |
| 21:50 | <gsnedders> | But that's scary! |
| 21:51 | <Dashiva> | Realize that in reality, the phone is scared of you |
| 21:51 | <gsnedders> | Also, if I do that, they'll likely phone up at 2am, drunk, asking for pizza. |
| 22:22 | <gsnedders> | annevk2: I do like your second latest blog post. |