| 01:00 | <Scriber> | hello all |
| 01:00 | <Scriber> | silly question perhaps? does html5lib run under windows? |
| 01:01 | <Scriber> | and if so how do I install it? |
| 01:12 | <annevk5> | if you get Python to run under Windows it should work |
| 01:19 | <Scriber> | annevk5, sorry... how exactly? do i run 'setup.py' or copy files? |
| 08:35 | <Hixie> | http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/8fhdt/post_some_examples_of_semantically_well_markedup/c0947s0?context=2 |
| 13:22 | <Scriber> | Hello all |
| 13:22 | <Scriber> | could someone possibly give me some instructions on installing html5lib under windows? |
| 13:23 | <Scriber> | when I run setup.py i get the error: No module named setuptools |
| 14:29 | <krijnh> | Are there any <datagrid> implementations already? |
| 14:37 | <Philip`> | Has anybody even read the <datagrid> specification yet? |
| 14:37 | Philip` | doesn't remember having seen anyone commenting on it |
| 14:40 | <krijnh> | Before the big (re)write last weeks, did anybody start with something in JS? |
| 14:40 | <krijnh> | Or wasn't that really possible? |
| 14:41 | Philip` | is unaware |
| 14:41 | <Philip`> | (though I think Hixie said he was doing a prototype implementation of the new datagrid, presumably in JS) |
| 14:42 | <krijnh> | Cool |
| 14:43 | <krijnh> | Is it possible to help in any way? |
| 14:43 | <Philip`> | I'd guess comments on the spec would be the most useful thing at this stage |
| 14:45 | <Philip`> | and perhaps attempts to use it to implement the purported use cases would be informative |
| 14:52 | <Philip`> | http://www.answers.com/ - <html class="Firefox"> or <html class="Opera"> etc (depending on UA) - I don't think I've seen that kind of browser sniffing before |
| 14:53 | <krijnh> | http://rafael.adm.br/css_browser_selector/ does something like it, although with JS |
| 15:28 | <ap> | hi fishd |
| 15:29 | <ap> | wrong channel |
| 16:32 | <zcorpan> | Hixie: i think browsers do something with --> |
| 17:13 | jgraham | wonders what zcorpan ws referring to |
| 17:14 | jgraham | finds the answer |
| 17:17 | <gsnedders> | Warning: I may soon start asking maths questions every two minutes :P |
| 17:20 | jgraham | readies his stopwatch |
| 17:21 | gsnedders | finds he no longer has the 2008 second prelim paper |
| 17:21 | gsnedders | concludes someone in his class must have two copies of it |
| 17:21 | gsnedders | ponders, and concludes he'll do real final past papers instead |
| 17:38 | gsnedders | doesn't understand any of this |
| 22:04 | gsnedders | wonders if HAVE_FUTURE_DATA predicts the future |
| 22:05 | gsnedders | guesses he could look at the spec and find out it didn't, but that'd be boring |
| 22:57 | <Philip`> | http://philip.html5.org/data/attr-count-pages-dotbot.txt |
| 23:06 | <Hixie> | dotbot? |
| 23:08 | <annevk5> | follow the pointers |
| 23:08 | <annevk5> | http://philip.html5.org/data/dotbot-20090424.txt |
| 23:09 | <Philip`> | It's a shame nobody's invented a technology that lets me embed clickable links, so I'll have to stick with text/plain for now |
| 23:10 | <Philip`> | s/with/with the limitations of/ |
| 23:16 | <annevk5> | i agree that HTML is a bit too complex for the requirements; it'll never fly |
| 23:20 | <Philip`> | Ooh, HTML? Didn't think of that |
| 23:20 | <krijnh> | Isn't HTML dead by now? |
| 23:20 | <annevk5> | pretty much, XML took over |
| 23:21 | <krijnh> | Yeah, it was inevitable |
| 23:21 | <annevk5> | I read this book the other day, all Web development will switch to XSLT+XML+XML Schema+XLink+XPointer pretty soonish |
| 23:21 | <annevk5> | much cleaner and all |
| 23:21 | <annevk5> | you know, you actually close the fricking tags |
| 23:22 | <krijnh> | I already use XML strict 1.2, I don't like going back to ugly tag soup! |
| 23:23 | <annevk5> | i'm more a transitional kind of guy myself |
| 23:25 | <krijnh> | Jij ook naar Eindhoven 8 mei? |
| 23:25 | <annevk5> | New York |
| 23:25 | <krijnh> | Grmbl :) |
| 23:26 | <annevk5> | kan het ook niet helpen dat jullie alles door m'n vakanties en werkdingen doorplannen :D |
| 23:26 | <krijnh> | Sorry :$ |
| 23:27 | <annevk5> | niet dat m'n agenda publikelijk is |
| 23:27 | <krijnh> | Nee idd, wilde het net vragen ;) |
| 23:28 | <annevk5> | Lachy is bang dat we plannen aan het smeden zijn om de wereld over te nemen |
| 23:28 | <annevk5> | zeg iets verdachts |
| 23:28 | <krijnh> | Heb je die bom nog gecontroleerd? |
| 23:29 | <Hixie> | hsivonen? |
| 23:29 | <krijnh> | En heb je je Hixie masker nou eindelijk eens af? :) |
| 23:29 | Hixie | doesn't understand the difference between IE and Firefox on http://www.w3.org/mid/8EFCF205-8F9D-4098-B9DB-703A5DA7A680⊙if |
| 23:29 | <jcranmer> | . . . |
| 23:29 | <annevk5> | krijnh, lol ja, binnenkort op shop.whatwg.org |
| 23:30 | <krijnh> | Zeker alleen te betalen met Google Checkout? |
| 23:30 | Hixie | ce demande ce que krijnh in annevk5 sont en train de se dire |
| 23:30 | <Hixie> | s/in/et/ |
| 23:31 | <Rik`> | Hixie: se demande ;) |
| 23:31 | <Lachy> | Als je van plan bent de wereld over te nemen, doe ik mee! |
| 23:31 | annevk5 | thinks Lachy is cheating |
| 23:31 | <krijnh> | Hixie: ce n'est pas la langue de l'amour :) |
| 23:32 | <krijnh> | Lachy: ons eerste doel is jou dumpen, dus dat wordt nog best lastig ;] |
| 23:33 | <Hixie> | crap, it doesn't work if krijnh understands what i say! |
| 23:33 | <krijnh> | Of all languages you could have picked.. |
| 23:34 | <Hixie> | unfortunately i really can only pick from two. :-) |
| 23:34 | <Lachy> | Jeg vil ta over verden uten deg |
| 23:35 | <krijnh> | That's why the Dutch will conquer the world! |
| 23:35 | <annevk5> | inderdaad; eerst met ons en nu zonder |
| 23:35 | <annevk5> | kun je niet echt op bouwen |
| 23:36 | <krijnh> | Lijkt redelijk op Nederlands |
| 23:37 | <annevk5> | Noors? ja |
| 23:37 | <annevk5> | ik begrijp ongeveer 50% en de rest verzin ik |
| 23:37 | <krijnh> | :) |
| 23:38 | <jcranmer> | Je declare que tous ici sont bête... la declaration m'inclut. |
| 23:38 | <jcranmer> | er, bêtes |
| 23:41 | <krijnh> | C'est ce que vous obtenez lorsque vous quittez votre sens de la logique a la porte :) |
| 23:41 | <jcranmer> | evidement |
| 23:42 | <Rik`> | s/quittez/laissez/ |
| 23:42 | <krijnh> | Baggertaal |
| 23:42 | <jcranmer> | quelqu'un a utilisé l'ordinatuer pour sa traduction? Quel horreur! |
| 23:42 | <krijnh> | Mais non! |
| 23:44 | krijnh | hopes Hixie doesn't have access to Google Translate logs :> |
| 23:44 | <Rik`> | Le français est donc la langue officielle de HTML 5 ? La version anglaise ne sera pas normative ? |
| 23:45 | <jcranmer> | Emporte les fourches! Et les torches! |
| 23:45 | <jcranmer> | Nous devons demander la tête de krijnh! |
| 23:46 | <krijnh> | :o |
| 23:46 | <krijnh> | Pourquoi? |
| 23:47 | <jcranmer> | Vous avez torturé une langue! Par utiliser la traduction d'un ordinateur... |
| 23:48 | <Rik`> | jcranmer: then we need your head too for the last one :) |
| 23:48 | <krijnh> | Seulement pour un ligne des mots :) |
| 23:48 | <gavin_> | "Par utiliser"? |
| 23:48 | <jcranmer> | by using |
| 23:48 | <Rik`> | En utilisant |
| 23:48 | <krijnh> | Heh |
| 23:48 | gavin_ | agrees with Rik` |
| 23:49 | <jcranmer> | krijnh: deux lignes... |
| 23:49 | <jcranmer> | En tout cas, je peux vivre sans ma tête... |
| 23:50 | <krijnh> | Comme un poulet? |
| 23:50 | <jcranmer> | ... ばか |
| 23:52 | Rik` | shouldn't have missed so many japanese lessons |
| 23:52 | <jcranmer> | I've taken less than you missed |
| 23:52 | krijnh | shouldn't use a non-unicode IRC client :) |
| 23:52 | <jcranmer> | FAIL |
| 23:52 | <krijnh> | I know |
| 23:53 | <krijnh> | Luckily the logs are okay |
| 23:53 | <krijnh> | Still doesn't make any sense, but whatever |
| 23:53 | jcranmer | attempts to translate that into Frech |
| 23:53 | <jcranmer> | er, French |
| 23:53 | <krijnh> | Translation: Japanese � English: Stupid |
| 23:54 | <jcranmer> | I'm betting that RATE wouldn't do it... |